10 Jahre Wiederaufbau

Report from the Select Committee on Slave Trade (East Coast of Africa); together with the proceedings of the Committee, minutes of evidence, appendix and index

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Title:: 10 Jahre Wiederaufbau

Place of publication:: Wien

Publisher:: Wirtschaftszeitungs-Verlags-Ges. M.B.H.

Year of publication:: 1928

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Title:: Die Industrie Österreichs / von Dr. Ludwig Hartelmüller, Sektionsrat im Bundesministerium für Handel und Verkehr

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ON SLAVE TRADE (EAST COAST OF AFRICA). 41 of the general government the care of hose interests should be entrusted to. 514. In general, is not a divided control, such' you propose, of the Indian and Foreign Office, ^^ther inexpedient ?—Certainly ; and if we could ^î'Ove at any other division which would not Involve a divided control, I should say it would ® an improvement. 515. Mr. Crum-Ewini/.~\ It ou have stated that Mu thought that the Sultan of Zanzibar would h® satisfied with an acknowledgement of the ’500Z,, but that would only be a portion of the ^^Veuue that he obtains from the slave trade, ''hich has been put at 22,000 1. ; is not that so ? ^ou must, to some extent, bring him over to yoiu- view, that this matter of slave trading is a had one for him. I have no doubt that in time could be brought to see it in that light ; at all ^^'cnts, I think he would be willing to make a S^cat sacrifice to gain your good will. 516. 1 hat would involve a sacrifice of 13,000/. 14,000/., which is an important thing, is it Mt?—I hardly think that it would involve as hiUch as that, because he would certainly not Mticipate our being able to stop it at once. 517. How many consuls would you think it ^"culd require on the coast?—I cannot say. Churchill would give the Committee better j^^rination on that point than I can. I should j ® inclined to deal liberally in that matter, and the consuls either have a European or native \Ce-consul or consular agent, or whatever he . ‘%ht ask for ; and then you would be able to after a year or two, whether he was doing My real good or not. 518. ]\Ir, jq 2^alhot.~\ There is an establish ment at Zanzibar for freed slaves, is there not ? j^There is a very large French mission, which ^hes a few, I believe ; and there may be some Mbsisting there; but there is no regular esta- hshment for maintaining freed slaves, or em- V eying them in any way. 519. Not connected with any European coun- —I believe not. 520. Lord F. Cavendish.^ If we relieve the of Zanzibar of the payment of the subsidy ^ the Imaum of Muscat, and if we made him g ^dy wish to put down this trade, would the ^Itan of Zanzibar have the power to control the ^^}'tl)ern Arabs ?—I have no doubt he would, '^mng backed by us. We do coerce them now 0.1 m'egard to their gradually, in defiance of his j.mders, assembling a very considerable naval ^rn’ce at Zanzibar. As long as it is merely a ^ ^der between him and those with whom we • ^ Me no concern, our officers are unable to in- mtere, but they would make very short work of n; Î miorthern Arabs if they were once allowed to Wc should be forced to keep a email force Avc. ^ mG coast in his support in that case, should "«not?_Yes. Would the Indian Government consider p^.Mr that half this subsidy to Muscat should be ^av the Indian Eevenues ?—I can hardly j Mat their view would be. The Government fj, has altered its view very considerably at 7 to time. Regarding its own interests ^Rzibar, in Lord Cannings time, they were looked upon as very important ; but latterly they have been looked upon, I think, without due re ference to the facts, as of less importance. The The Government of India being also further re moved from the ports which trade with Zanzibar is not, perhaps, so strongly impressed with the value of the trade, and its capabilities of supplying the Government of Bombay. 523. Is the East Coast of Africa an unhealthy coast?—The lower parts, at the mouths of the rivers, are, I believe, very unhealthy, but directly you get through Deltas, and the low country on the coast, you get to a country which has been described to me as remarkably healthy ; you rise up a kind of steppe into a table land, and you find that is healthy. 524. IVith regard to the recommendation of increasing our fleet off this coast, would the ser vice be an unhealthy one for the crews ? —I should say not, because you wmuld not be much in the River Deltas ; they would be mostly at sea, which is not more unhealthy than the tropical service at sea generally. 525. With regard to subsidising a line of steamers, between what ports should such steamers ply, do you think ?—I should say they might diverge from Aden or Maculla, which is a port between Muscat and Aden. They should run down the coast as far south as there is any English trade, and they should possibly include in that tour some of the islands, such as Seychelles, that communicate between Zanzibar and the Seychelles Islands. 526. Have you any knowledge what kind of subsidy the merchants would require to start such a line of steamers; would it be 10,000/. or 50,000 /., or what ?—No ; I should say it would not be very expensive. Besides there is known to be a considerable trade, and I think they would be content with a very short term, pro bably, at first starting. 527. The high price of coals on that coast would make the service an expensive one, would it not ?—The coals would probably be supplied direct from England. Vessels would go out ballasted with coals, and return with cotton or sugar or other produce as they now do. 528. You would have to go by the Suez Canal, would you not?—They would join in with the Suez line at Aden. 529. Chairman.'] In No. 65 of the Report addressed to the Earl of Clarendon by the Com mittee on the East African Slave Trade, there is a suggestion with regard to freed slaves, that “ the greatest care should be taken to jiro- vide efficient protection for the freed slaves, and to prevent their being ill-used by their employers, or kidnapped by the slave-dealers. They should be under the special protection of Her Majesty’s Consul, although amenable to the laws of Zan zibar ; a register should be kept of them at the British Consulate ; they should be provided with printed certificates of freedom, and, as we have already suggested, the Sultan should declare his intention to punish severely any attempt to molest them ;” should you concur in those recom mendations ? — Those are exactly the kind of regulations that I would propose. Sir B. Fret e, G.C.S.I., K C.B. 17 July 1871. o-ue. F

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