MAJORITY REPORT. as 7s. 6d. has been thought reasonable. A statutory limit would have to be above 5s., and would tend to be regarded as normal. The problem is to get Societies to adopt a reasonable balance between the amounts allocated to cash increases and to treatment benefits, respectively. I think that the powers of the Minister, in regard to approval of schemes of additional benefits, are sufficient to enable a check to be applied in practice on the extent of increases in cash benefits.”” (Q. 23,458.) 602. While it will be seen from the quotations given above that there is a considerable volume of evidence from representa- tives of Friendly Societies in favour of imposing a statutory limit on the amount by which cash benefits might be increased by way of additional benefit, we feel that regard must be had to the considerations which influence the Societies in this point of view. It was evident to us, and was, indeed, frankly admitted by some witnesses, that this suggested restriction was largely, if not entirely, advanced in the interests of the voluntary side of the Societies concerned, and was based on the feeling that the larger the amount of benefit obtainable under National Health Insurance, the less scope would there be for supple- menting that insurance by voluntary insurance through the private sides of Friendly Societies. We recognise the force of this argument, and we have no desire to depreciate or to place any unnecessary restriction upon the great work which voluntary Friendly Societies have done and are still doing in the encourage- ment of thrift. We cannot, however, overlook the fact that these Societies include only a fraction of the whole insured Population and that, particularly at more advanced ages, it is Not possible, except by payment of an almost prohibitive rate of contribution, for an insured person, who is not already a Member of a Friendly Society, to make voluntarily such pro- Vision as he may desire for supplementing the benefit obtainable under the State insurance. 603. We are informed that very few Societies provide for an increase of more than 5s. in the rate of sickness benefit (with proportionate increases of the other cash benefits) and that there is, moreover, a growing tendency on the part of Societies, in framing schemes of additional benefits, to allocate Sums to benefits in the nature of treatment rather than to provide large cash increases. . 604. While we do not favour any arbitrary restriction of the Nght of Societies to dispose of their surplus funds in accordance With the wishes of their members, we think that Societies, in formulating their schemes of additional benefits, should properly haye regard, on the one hand, to the danger of over-insurance, ind, on the other, to the disparity between the rates of sickness benefit and unemployment benefit. We are informed that the Practice of the Department in cases where a Society proposes 54TH i