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try at a particular time, or of naturalized aliens that might be re- 
siding here. 
The Junior Order, as the gentlemen of the committee and others 
present probably realize, has devoted a great deal of time to the study 
of this and similar questions, and it feels very strongly that the na- 
tional-origins clause ought to become operative as is now provided 
by law, and I am pleased to be present this morning to express these 
views; and I thank the committee for the courtesy. 
The Cuamrman. Thank you, sir. Is there anybody present who de- 
sires to present any views in behalf of the N ye resolution postponing 
the operation of the law for the period of a year? (After a pause.) 
Mr. Lloyd, will you designate who you wish called, please? 
Mr. Lroyp. Yes, sir. If I might take the committee’s time just 
for a minute, here are some more petitions just arrived. I would like 
to turn them over to the stenographer. 
The Cuairman. You may file them. 
(The petitions referred to were thereupon received and filed with 
the committee for reference.) i 
Mr. Lroyp. Here is a telegram, just recently arrived, which I did 
not have titne to read to the committee the other day. It is dated at 
Sacramento, Calif., February 5, and addressed to me [reading] : 
Chairman Hiram Johnson kindly wired us about when the public hearings 
national origins. Since the time prevents our sending representatives, trust 
you will most earnestly present our protest against any further annulment of 
this clause of quota act. Hntire Pacific coast patriotic societies emphatically 
opposed to further postponement. These constitute overwhelming majority of 
voters here. None thereof can grasp why Senate should yield to pressure 
groups that were disloyal during the war. These carried on propaganda then. 
Their mentality indicates loyalty of overseas instead of American flag. No 
finer group in America to-day than blood descendants of those who gave America 
her institutions. Why should they be penalized? 
IMMIGRATION STUDY COMMISSION. 
I would like also to read, if I may, a letter I received from Doctor 
Hill, in reply to one of my own, which will explain the situation 
[reading] : 
Dr. Josep A. Hiri, 
Chairman of the Quota Board, Census Bureau, 
Washington, D.C. 
My Dear Mr. HirL: A witness before the Senate Immigration Committee, at 
its hearing Wednesday, argued that national origins could not be computed 
because the ancestries of so many Americans, like his own, were mixed. 
The witness seemed ignorant of the specific statement in the law that the 
determination of the national origins “shall not be made by tracing the 
ancestors or descendants of particular individuals, but shall be based on 
statistics of immigration and emigration,” ete. 
In order to make the matter perfectly clear, however, I would appreciate 
it very much if you would drop me a line stating whether or not in working 
but the national-origins figures you were obliged to give any attention to indi- 
vidual genealogies and, if so, roughly, how much? 
Doctor Hills letter [reading] : 
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, 
BureaU or THE CENSUS, . 
Washington, D. C., February 28, 1929. 
FEBRUARY 8. 1929 
Mr. DEMAREST LLOYD, : 
1825 R Street NW., Washington, D. C. 
Dear Me. Lroyp: Replying to your note of February 8, aud in answer to your 
inquiry XY would state that the quota board in determining immigration quotas 
did not’ make any attempt or find it necessary to trace individual genealogies 
tO any extent whatever