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WESTERN HEMISPHERE IMMIGRATION

Mr. Hussanp. If they were applied to the same territory?
Mr. ScanripeR. Yes.
Mr. HusBanp. I can not give that offhand, but I believe the quota
board has figures which would make it possible to say what the quota
from Canada, Mexico, and possibly Cuba would be under the national
origin system.
Mr. Sceneiper. Could you prepare such figures and present them
to the committee?
Mr. HusBanp. I shall be glad to do that, if the figures are available.
Mr. GiBson. Have you the figures on Judge Box’s bill?
Mr. Huseanp. I can give you, subject to revision, the figures
showing the number of immigrant aliens admitted from Canada and
Newfoundland, Mexico, Cuba, and other West Indies, and the independent
 countries of Central America and South America, during the
five years 1925 to 1929, and, as provided in Judge Box’s bill, the
annual average immigration for those years, and 3 per cent of the
annual average.
Mr. Gisson. Could you explain, then, how the two bills differ in
determining the number?
Mr. HusBanp. Well, I can give you these figures as I have them.
Mr. Box. He could give his judgment as to the operation in the
provision of quotas—the difference in the operation—without giving
details which will necessarily have to be worked out.
Mr. Gisson. I thought that was my question.
Mr. HusBanp. For example, Judge Box’s bill makes reference to
geographical areas whose population habitually speak the English
language.
Mr. Box. I beg your pardon, Mr. Secretary. It is not very plain.
That is one of the reasons it is being redrafted. But the purpose of
it was to give the quotas to people who habitually speak the English
language, born in those geographical areas; and if we had during the
last five years received, we would say, 10,000 people from those
countries—an average number of 10,000 people—we would give to
people who habitually speak the English language from those same
areas 3 per cent of that number.
Mr. HusBanp. Yes.
Mr. Box. That was my effort.
Mr. Hussanp. Yes. Your bill makes that provision. Let us take
Canada, for example. Under Chairman Johnson’s bill the quota for
Canada and Newfoundland would be 50,667. Three per cent of our
average immigration from Canada and Newfoundland during the
past five years would give those countries a combined quota of 2,533.
That is 3 per cent of the average number of immigrant aliens admitted.
Mr. Box. There is one provision which I inserted which provided
that the maximum number of all the quotas should be 50,000.
Mr. HusBanp. I was going to refer to that.
Ni. Pox. I beg your pardon.
Mr. HusBanp. Later on in the bill Judge Box provides that—
The Secretary of Labor shall apportion to persons eligible to citizenship born in
said geographical areas who habitually speak the English language such annual
‘mmigration quotas as shall make the total number of quota immigrants born in
all the geographical areas named in section 3 of this act not to exceed 50,000
during any one fiscal year.
Obviously, a large part of that 50,000 would go to Canada and
Newfoundland, but just what the number would be would depend