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Doctor Peterson. I do not know, Mr. Chairman, but I think it
should be explored.
The Crarrman. Well, Doctor, these hearings will be printed and
you will have an opportunity to revise your remarks, and you may
add anything you think will be of value to the committee. We wish
0 thank you very much.
Mr. Gisson. As I understand it, Doctor, you say you need Mexi-~an
 laborers in Utah for farm labor—is that correct?
Doctor Pererson. Mexicans?
Mr. GissoN. Yes.
Doctor PeTErsoN. Yes, sir.
Mr. Gisson. You need them?
Doctor PETERSON. Yes, sir.
Mr. GissoN. And need them on the railroads?
Doctor PETERSON. Yes, sir; and to some extent in the mines.
Mr. Grsson. Does not that have a tendency to keep out American
abor—by the use of Mexicans?
Doctor PerersoN. To some extent, undoubtedly.
Mr. Gisson. And does keep Americans out of jobs?
Doctor Prrerson. Undoubtedly to some extent. That is irrefutable.

Mr. Gisson. Do you think that is an economically wise way to
proceed with this large unemployment?
Doctor PETERSON. I have heard men say the only way for them to
maintain their solvency was to have a minimum of this type of labor
which Americans do not care to perform. Without the Mexican they
would be hard put, out there, and if they had to have Americans who
are not adapted to this work, and it would destroy this industry, we
do not think that would help the American very much. I think I
sould explain it in a roundabout way; in reality these industries must
pay out. They must have certain labor in order to do it. Itis a
very real and vital question you are considering which relates to the
very economic life of such areas as Southern California.
Mr. Grsson. I think it would be a roundabout way. You stated,
[ believe, that the original inhabitants of Utah were drawn from
New England?
Doctor Pererson. To a large extent.
Mr. Gipson. Let me observe, for the purpose of an historical
record, that Brigham Young was from my home county where my
ancestors have lived for 150 years and was from a strict New England
family, and that Joseph Smith, the great prophet, came from the
first county to the north.
Doctor PETERSON. It is a source of great pride to people of Utah
20 trace part of their lineage to New England.
The CuairmaN. ‘Westward the course of empire takes its way”
and people now in your territory will be struggling to get a handhold
on the country that remains to the west.
(Executive session followed.)