124 WESTERN HEMISPHERE IMMIGRATION

Mr. WiLey. We have the director of our labor branch in the farm
bureau here who will testify. I could not give you the percentages,
but they come from within a radius of 500 miles around us. We
search for them in every direction.
Mr. ScaNeipER. Is it your opinion that most of them have come
right from Mexico?
Mr. WirLey. Most of them, I think, are. I do not know how it is
right now, but they used to be Mexicans that came up and picked
cotton every fall, and went back to Mexico, for a regular trip.
Mr. SceHNEIDER. You explained that these Porto Ricans you
brought up all left you and sifted out into the population of the
United States, and some probably returned to Porte Rico.
Mr. Winey. I did not say that they sifted out into the population.
[ said I thought all of them who did not return to Porto Rico were in
Arizona and California.
Mr. ScaneipER., But they are not with you now?
Mr. WiLey. Yes, some of them are.
Mr. Scuxeiper. How many?
Mr. WiLey. Ihave no count of them. I would just guess, probably
500 of them are still in Arizona.
Mr. ScuveipEr. How do you know they are all in Arizona and
California?
Mr. Winey. Well, I know that the general movement of those Porto
Ricans when they left the State was that they went over to California.
Mr. ScaneipER. Do you know that there are 60.000 of them in
New York City?
Mr. WiLeyY. Not the ones that we brought over.
Mr. Scanemer. How do you know?
Mr. WiLey. We did not bring 60,000 in.
Mr. ScanerpEr. There may be some of them up there?
Mr. WiLey. We might have some up there; but, just offhand, I
would doubt it very much.
Mr. ScaneipEr. You heard the discussion about the seepage of
Mexicans from the Southwest into the Middle States and the Northern
States and the Eastern States?
Mr. WiLey. Yes; I heard that.
Mr. Scenemper. What is your opinion with reference to the opinion
of the farm bureaus throughout the country, with reference to the
effect from this seepage of cheap Mexican labor that comes in competition
 with members of the farm bureau in every section of the
country?
Mr. Winey. I do not think there are many members of the farm
bureau down there who are familiar with just how much this seepage
is. Our members of the farm bureau down there in Arizona have
been rubbing shoulders with the Mexicans ever since we have had a
State, and I think they are about as hich a type of men as you will
find anywhere.
Mr. Scuneiper. You mean for that class of labor?
Mr. WiLey. I mean for an American citizen.
Mr. Scaneiper. You think that the Mexicans going into Illinois,
most of them without families, become good citizens?
Mr. Winey. You were talking to me about members of the farm
hureau. As I understood vou, vou wanted to know what effect we