194 WESTERN HEMISPHERE IMMIGRATION

The Cuairman. Of course, you are talking on a very acute problem
that affects not only this committee but many other committees in
Congress.
Mr. Hart. I understand that.
The Cuarrman. It is a very serious problem and we are glad to
have your statements and glad that you are so frank about it.
Mr. Ruraerrorp. Do I infer from what you said that when you
were living in Washington the profits from the farm were so small that
they could not pay you over 16 cents an hour?
Mr. Hart. I would not say——
Mr. Ruraerrorp (interposing). Just answer the question. Can
you say yes or no?
Mr. Hart. I say the profits were so small that thev could not afford
{0 pay more.
Mr. Ruruerrorp. Now, that being true, if you had had any number,
 an unlimited number of Mexicans in there to do the labor. do you
think they would have paid you any more?
Mr. Harr. Well, if you had the time for me to give you something
of what I tried to preach to those folks up there since I have been in
California, I might say yes.
Mr. Ruraerrorp. Why?
Mr, Harr. Because if you had help enough and if you could get
the people educated to what they need in western Washington, there
is no better land on earth than western Washington, no finer State;
if I do come from California, than western Washington, but they have
no vision, they haven’t the vision of the people of Ee, and they
haven’t any program and they don’t work together, and I am preaching
 to them over the radio night after night the things that we are
doing in California and why we are doing them and why we are getting
there. There is no reason why the State of Washington should not be
a second California, so far as the wealth of the citizens is concerned,
and the products it produces. If they had the cooperation of the
political officeholders, if they had the cooperation of the city dweller—
and you can not get that until you educate them—they could clear
that land up there and could produce, and if they had the cooperation
of this Congress—now, I am just a farmer, that is all, and I have to
tell the truth——
The Cuamman. Go ahead.
Mr. Harr. I will say this is my first experience back here in
Washington. I have stayed at home and worked. But as I say to
you, as I work out there on my farm and I try to make a living and I
try to be a good citizen and I try to treat my help right, and I see a
statement emanating from Congressmen and broadcast over this land
in regard to sugar—for I was a beet-sugar grower until I could not
afford to grow them any longer—and I see a statement emanating
from Congressmen who are supposed to represent farming districts
and country districts that we are all proud of, and he says, “I will not
be for a tariff on sugar or any industry that will employ cheap labor,
and I will have nothing to do with it, I would rather put it on the
free list ’—and I submit to you gentlemen that every farmer I know
is just as interested in paying just as high wages as anybody else, and
when we ask for protection in order that we can pay our help a living
wage, if you please, and give them the finest things in the land, and
then have a Congressman who is supposed to consider things in an
nnbiased and unprejudiced manner say that an industry that will not