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pay its help I will not help—now, that is an insult, because we are
Just as honest, and I love my men just as much as you love yours,
and maybe more. I am a Christian and I try to practice it and live
it, and I want to pay my help, but I say that when I have to take the
things that my daughter needs and my wife needs, and give them to
my help, there has got to be a dividing line, and when I come back
here and present my evidence, or when I write and wire it, and then
ind those fellows getting up and paying no attention to it, and when
[ read the cross-examination of witnesses and see how they try to
exclude the facts that are on the other side, I can’t help but wonder
if there isn’t something wrong with government.
The CrairMaN. Now you realize that this committee is doing the
best it can—there are several members employed in other committees—to
 hear in the limited amount of time we have, the statements
pro and con on a tremendous subject.
Mr. Hart. I understand that.
The CrarMaN. It covers a wide range, covering your people and
everything connected with the subject. Your living'in a valley that
is known to be one of the richest valleys shows you the range of the
problem, and then it goes clear to the tariff on sugar. I do not know
whether that statement was made in this hearing.
Mr. Hart. It was in the tariff hearings. It was not in this one.
But I am just giving you my reaction.
The Cramrman. I want to get your picture a little bit about your
bome country. How much acreage did you have in the Puvallup
Valley, or Sumner at the time you were there?
Mr. Harr. My brother has now a 5-acre ranch. My sister farms
a 4j-acre ranch. The average ranch in the Puyallup and Sumner
Valley, berry ranch, is 5 acres. There are some 10. When we were
there, at the time I speak of, we had 14, and the thing that saved us
was the fact that there was some tax land along the river that was
filled in back of Mr. Polhemus’s dike, and we were able to buy it at
the tax title, and by hard work and labor and long hours we cleared
that land and put it in, and when the war came along, my father was
wise enough to let somebody else pay the interest on it, and that is
the only reason to-day that he is not a slave up there. }
The CrarrMaN. Now, you say that on your place in Salinas
Valley, Calif., you raise more lettuce than thev raise in the Puyallup
Valley?
Mr, Hart. That is correct.
The CrairMaN. The whole valley? .
Mr. Hart. When I was there in Washington in 1923 I talked to
Henry Rhodes, a good old friend of mine, and he told me they had
just that season put on 50 carloads of lettuce, and I raised on my
ranch from 86 to 120 cars a year. 1 have rows of lattnee three-Juarters
 of a mile long.
The CramrMan. I am not disputing your figures, but I thought
lettuce was quite a crop up in the Puyallup and Sumner Valley.
Mr. Hart. When I heard them talking about their 50 carloads and
I told Henry that I raised more than that on my ranch, he looked at
me as though he thought, “Well, I knew your father before you, but
[just don’t believe it.” . . .
The Cuarrman. Now, you think that lettuce is not grown with
Japanese labor in the Puvallup Valley?