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Mr. Hart. In other words, we are all human, aren’t we?
Mr. Box. Yes.
The Crairman. Now that we have broken your line of testimony,
{ will argue a little with you, too. I thought I had considerably
helped the people of Pierce County, Wash., where lie these valleys
you mention, by doing my part in shutting off the influx of Orientals.
Mer. Harr. I think you did.
The Cratrman. Particularly the Japanese.
Mr. Hart. I think you did.
The Crarrman. I thought I had helped labor a good deal, but
nevertheless in the last election I lost that county by about 14,000
robes.
Mr. Hart. Well, do you know what labor is waking up to? Labor
is waking up to the very argument that I am producing here, that we
are educating our children to a place where they do not want to do
this kind of work, and unless we can get some labor—not cheap labor,
but unless we can get some labor to do that class of work, industries
are going to shut down, and I could follow this line of argument on
out and prove it in dollars and cents, what it means to these eastern
railroads, if this thing that you are about to do or contemplate doing
is done, and I am not one of these fellows that gets excited about
little things, because this world goes on, I know, but I have seen this
world in the short time I have lived, go through some awfully hard
times and I have gone through them, too, and I know my dad went
through them and tried to raise a decent family, and I say (hat most
of those hard times have been caused by people doing things on sen timent
 and not on facts.
I have been convinced in my life that facts always win. They have
a hard row and the fellow who goes on sentiment and will not base
himself on facts in the end gets licked. But we have to pay the piper
while he is learning his lesson, and I hope that this committee will
consider the facts. I do not think that we as farmers are asking
anything that is not right. We say to you and we say to Congress,
we do not know all there is to know about this thing, but we do plead
with you to appoint an independent, unbiased fact-finding commission,
 and we will abide by the facts. But we do not want you to pass
wegislation without you can and do study the facts.
Mr. Box. If that commission did not agree with you, though, you
would not agree that it was unbiased.
Mr. Hart. Ido not know about that. I think I am honest enough
to agree that it is unbiased.
Mr. Box. I do not mean to impugn your honesty at all. I know
that we are all——
Mr. Harr (interposing). You know human nature and so do I.
Mr. Box. We are all partisan, and when we look at a thing from
the standpoint of our interests, we think the other man is unreasonable.
 We don’t agree with him.
Mr. Hart. If you put an unbiased commission on that and they
find that the Mexican is a menace, they will find somebody to take
his place that is not a menace.
Mr. Box. What does the legislature of California mean when both
branches of it by an overwhelming majority asks Congress to pass
this legislation? They represent your people, don’t they?
Mr. Harr. They represent just exactly what I have been telling
you that causes a man to lose faith in government.