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hi Box. Why don’t you elect somebody who does represent your
people?
Mr. Harr. We are doing it as best we can, and I want to say to you
that I have sacrificed the last four years of my life, and my wife has
too, in order to tell the people the facts and try to convince them that
this Government, if it is going to succeed, must become a business government,
 and three years ago we began to tell them that they must have
a business president, and I thank God we have one, and I said to a
man last night, “ You are a young man, and unless you die prematurely
you are going to come to me some day and say, ‘This prophecy is
correct. This business of government will become a business and men
will be elected because they exercise business judgment, regardless of
how it affects the women’s organizations or the men’s organizations
that say ‘we will put you out of office if you don’t agree with me’,”
and I haven’t any faith or any time for a man who will threaten a man
to put him out of office just because he doesn’t agree with him. I say
that we have got to come to the place in government, if we are going
to exist, where we will consider the facts in an unprejudiced way and
wherein we will have committees that will—and I have not been before
 your committee long enough to pass judgment on you, but I sat
before a committee in this House on which I am persuaded there was
a man who was absolutely prejudiced and did not want a witness to
tell him the truth.
The Cratrman. We get a lot of truth here.
Mr. Hart. I know you do.
The Crarrman. And we are dealing with gunpowder subjects.
Mr. Hart. And I am saying to you in answer to your question
that T am not proud of our California Legislature, and T am not convinced
 but that it needs a lot of improvement.
Mr. Box. Do you think the Legislature of Oregon needs changing
too, when it makes the same request? It has done the same thing
by unanimous vote. .
Mr. Hart. I went to California from Oregon.
Mr. Box. They are bad too?
Mr. Harr. I think they could be improved.
Mr. Box. Then when the granges, the people of Colorado, the
farmers of Colorado, ask this committee to pass this legislation. are
they crazy too?
Mr. Harr. No, they may not be crazy.
Mr. Box. Well, they are dirt farmers, aren’t they?
Mr. Hart. The Grangers?
Mr. Box. Yes. .
Mr. Hart. 1 think the Grange is one of the finest organizations
in the country. I am a Farm Bureau man and I think the Grange
is as fine an organization as there is anywhere, and 1 think the Farm
Bureau is a mighty fine thing. ;
Mr. Free. Isn’t the National Grange on record by resolution on
this?
Mr, Harr. The National Grange is on record just as we are on
record in California, that before these things are done, you must have
the facts, and when you have the facts and pass legislation on the
facts, we can not and will not oppose it. I say you can not oppose
facts and succeed. }
Mr. Box. The trouble, my dear sir, is that each one of us thinks
the facts are his way. We are like we are in court. We had a man