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not take exception to anyone in the breadth of my vision or my thought
with regard to this problem from the standpoint of the future weltare
 of this whole nation, and we look at this whole proposition
ln exactly that way, but we do contend that someone should come
out and investigate this matter, at least come and try and get hold of
the contacts that would enable them to get the wholestory. Thus
far that never has been done.
Mr. Box. That is where you are in error. They did not come to
you and you think they must come to you as the source of information,
That is the trouble.
Mr. TayLor. Not at all, Mr. Box, but I do believe that they should
come to at least some of us, some of all the people that are working
on this thing. We have done that. We have gone to the other side.
Mr. Box. We have heard everyone of you. There has not been
a paper that has come—TI have the papers of, I don’t know how many
gentlemen, and there has not been one of them that has not been put
with the data that I have—my data is getting so voluminous that I
can hardly see over it—there is not one of them that has not had
respectful attention, and when this committee—I was a member of
this committee 10 years ago—when we went to California, and
we broke up into parties and I went into the fruit fields and the berry
fields and everywhere else and saw the Japanese and the Chinese and
others there. We walked in the heat and in the sun, and men out
there told us then just what you do now, “if you stop this, you will
tuin California.” That is what they told us then.
Mr. Tayror. Well, Mr. Box, did they ever at that time tell you
that by the exclusion of those people you would create a social menace
in California? I never heard of that.
Mr. Box. They denied then that the Japanese created a social
menace, because their interests—and they are just like the rest of us,
nobody is questioning the right of a man to see things from the standpoint
 of his own interest—they denied that the Japanese made a
Social menace; they said we would ruin California if we stopped the
Japanese from coming.
Mr, Tavuor. That may be, but now we have another story to tell.
We have an entirely different situation now. We are not only saying
that these Mexicans do not create a social menace, but we are saying
that by the exclusion of them you will create a social menace in this
“ountry. That is certain.
The CuamrMaN. Before we get through we will see how much you
lave been around. You have been in the mines in Arizona?
Mr. Tavror. Not in Arizona, but in California. } }
The Cumairman. They have not got Mexicans in the mines in
California yet, have they? .
Mr. TavrLor. A few; yes. Enough to know what they are like.
Enough to know the situation.
The Crarman. Do you expect to find more 10 years from now?
Mr. Tavror. I don’t know. I can’t tell.
The CrairmMAN. You have not been in Arizona?
Mr, Tayror. No; I am speaking from the California angle, be-“ause
 I was born and raised in California and have lived among these
People all my life. I know the California situation but I don’t know
the ‘details in anv other State.