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os CuairmaN, They were bringing in the other people in great
plenty.
Mr. Tayror. Not at that time, not so much. Every time you
shut out one they brought in more of the other, every single time.
The CuairmManN. We will get the figures and insert them in the
record right here.
Mr. TayrLor. The main thing about it is this, that the Chinese,
according to what I hear from my own friends who have lived down
there, the Chinese make a beneficent cross with the Hawaiian, as a
matter of fact, and the other people donot. It is bécause of -the fact
that you did shut him out that you created a worse situation than you
had before. Now, was that a wise thing to do?
The Crairman. You will get plenty of beneficent crosses in the
sourse of time in California, Chinese and Hawaiians,
Mr. Fres. There are no Hawaiians in California.
Mr. Tayror. Practically none.
Mr. Box. Of the native Hawaiian population of about 400,000,
with our beneficent crosses with them we have eliminated all but
25,000 of their population. While we were preserving the Hawaiians
we destroyed them by this melting pot that the chairman talks about.
Even counting mixed breeds there is not one {Hawaiian there now
where there were eight when the United States came to deal with
them.
Mr. Tavror. Counting mixed breeds?
Mr. Box. Counting mixed breeds. Those are their own figures.
Mr. Tavror. Is that the reason, because they married Chinese?
Mr. Box. Because the world poured in on them in this melting

pot.
Mr. TayLor. But the reason is the disease that was brought into
the islands. That is the reason.
Mr. Box. It is a miniature reproduction of just what the imports
of slaves, the imports of Chinese, the imports of Japanese, the imports
 of Mexicans, the imports of Hawailans, the imports of Porto
Ricans, are doing for America, if the Congress of the United States
has not wisdom enough to prevent it.
Mr. Tayror. I don’t agree with you at all. I think that is absolutely
 unsound, because you include in there people that are not a
menace, that we deny are a menace. As a matter of fact, they were
here before we were. The social aspects of this thing, the racial
aspects and all, can be demonstrated not to be a menace.
Mr. Box. My father and my grandfathers for generations lived in
Texas when it was part of Mexico. Our people and the Mexicans
could not get along then. My grandfather was in the battle of San
J i to me about not knowing anvthing about the Mexican
people.
Mr. Tayror. I did not say you did not know anything about
them, but I do say that the thing that you just mentioned, the battle
of San Jacinto and the difficulties you had with the Mexicans were
not racial difficulties, they were political difficulties.
. Mr. Box. They were every kind of difficulties that arise when
different races of people get together.
Mr. Tavror. But they were practically entirely political difficulties.
Mr. Box. Well, I beg your pardon, I do not want to interrupt your
statement. You go richt shead and I will try and not interrupt.