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Mr. Esterry. Do your organizations recommend that Porto Rico
be made a free and independent republic?
Mr. TavrLor. We are not making any recommendations with
regard to a matter of that kind. We have not had an opportunity to
study it sufficiently. That is a problem that is before you people
here and we want to leave it to you.
The CrairMan. Did you say Porto Rico?
Mr. Esteruy. Yes. If it is an ulcer now, would it not be a wise
thing, in the judgment of these California associations, to .get rid of
Porto Rico?
Mr. Tavyror. I think you will find that our people will be very
much delighted indeed if you can only find a solution of the problem,
whereby they can get the labor they need.
Mr. EsterLy. Do you want to get rid of Porto Rico?
Mr. Tavror. If that is the only way out of it. I can not speak for
that phase of the subject. It has never been discussed by my people
and I can not speak on that, but I can say to you that they would be
delighted to see any solution of the problem that would prevent
either the Porto Ricans or the Filipinos from coming into this country.
Mr. EsterLy. Do you know that in Pennsylvania we have sort
of race problems there indirectly? By reason of not getting a tariff
on pig iron, our iron furnaces are shut down and we are getting pig
iron from India, where they earn 10 to 25 cents a day, shot all the way
across the Pacific Ocean and through the Panama Canal and up the
Atlantic Coast and delivered in Philadelphia at a price less than we
can manufacture it there. We also have problems.
Mr. Tavror. I appreciate all that. That is a tariff problem that
you are discussing.
Mr. Esterruy. Is California in favor of increasing the tariff on
pig iron?
Mr. Tavior. I can not discuss it. I know nothing about it.
Mr. Free. Here is one member from California that is. If Judge
Box will come along with us, we will put it over. [Laughter.]
Mr. Box. I can not fight the whole majority party and beat them
all.
The CualRMAN. Now, Mr. Witness, with your permission we will
change your allowed 10 minutes for presentation of this enormous
question. You have had 45 minutes, a lot of which was taken by
members of the committee, and if we can spare the time I would like
to discuss with you still further some of the details as to these numerous
 industries for which you are the agent and representative. They
are all doing well, are they?
Mr. Tavror. No, sir; they are not.
The CrairmaN. They are not doing well even with this labor?
Mr. Tayror. Not all of them; no, sir.
The Cuarrman. How is the date industry?
Mr. Tavior. The date industry is getting along fairly well, 1
guess, so far as I know, except this year they had a very bad rain which
destroyed a very material portion of their crop.
The Cuamrman. Are the cattlemen doing pretty well?
Mr. Tavror. So far as I know they are on their peak right now.
They have been in pretty bad shape for a while. Right now they
happen to be in better shape than they were before. I would say,
Mr. Chairman. so far as this is concerned, I would prefer not to make