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The CuairMan. Oh, yes; all of this is proper, of course. But I
wanted to have it explained.
Mr. Gray. There is no contact between the county farm bureau
and the Federal Government, unless you call that contribution of
the county farm bureau in sustaining the county agricultural agent
nut of its own funds, such a contact.
The CrarrMaN. Now, let us see. The State adopts the 50-50
system, but does not pay enough money to really maintain the
county agent. Then your agency helps out?
Mr. Gray. Yes, we help out. That is true in many of our States.
That is not true in all States, because in some of our States the State
funds and the Federal funds combined are sufficient to wholly pay
the salary, and in some cases the expenses, of the county agent. In
that case the county farm bureau uses this membership fee, whether
it is $5 or $10 or $15 annually—it varies in different amounts in
different States and counties—for whatever other work it wants to
do locally than to sustain the county agricultural agent. * However,
{ will say that it is the uniform policy in the farm bureau that whether
this county fund goes to the salary of the county agent, or whether
that salary is sustained by State and Federal funds, the county agent
receives the active participation and support in other ways than
inancially from the farm bureau.
The Cuairman. In an effort to cooperate?
Mr. Gray. Yes; to promote the best agricultural interest in that
county, whether it be soil maintenance, livestock betterment, employment
 of labor, the introduction of more highly concentrated fertilizer,
or a dozen other things. All that is the county farm bureau program,
as well as being the county agricultural agent's program. I will say
frankly and briefly that the average program of the average county
farm bureau duplicates in large measure the program of the county
agricultural agent, and includes also the program of the home-demonstration
 agent, and includes also. the program of the county boys and
girls’ club agency, if there be such a thing in the county.
The CrairMaN. Now, the Federal home demonstration is 50-50,
Federal and State?
Mr. Gray. Yes, in some of the counties, but not so many of them.
The Cuairman. Certain States do not go into it?
Mr. Gray. Well, the money has not been forthcoming either from
State or Federal Government. }
The Cuarrman. Now, the boys’ club: is that a federally assisted
institution? oo
Mr. Gray. On the same basis as these other agencies, except that
the funds have not been so adequate that they could be spread over
the entire agent system. And there is a lesser number of clubs and
agencies, 4-H agents, boys’ and girls’ clubs, and similar agencies, than
there are either of home-demonstration agents or county a
tural agents. We are now introducing a bill, through Senator Capper
and Congressman Ketcham, having consulted with President Hoover
yesterday about it, which will give us more funds for the entire agricultural
 extension work, which will permit more home agents and
more boys’ and girls’ agents.
The Crairman. It will not consolidate any of these three 50-50
agents that you have already named? Will it consolidate them?
Mr. Gray. What do you mean—consolidate?
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