310 WESTERN HEMISPHERE IMMIGRATION

Mr. Frrzearrick. No; this information—I mean the chambers’
interest, in immigration comes out of our western division members,
out of the chambers of commerce and trade associations in the West.
Mr. Caase: Is it not true that the opinions of the chambers of
commerce are molded here by the central body, rather than by
the subordinate chambers?
Mr. Frrzeatrick. No. Our interest in Mexican immigration
originates from several places, from our member organizations from
the West and the Southwest, and then it is carried on from the point
of view of our member organizations generally.
Mr. Crase. And its subordinate chambers.
Mr. Fitzpatrick. They are not subordinate. I mean——
Mr. Cuase (interposing). You are subordinate.
Mr. FrrzpaTtrick. We are subordinate. We are a federation.
Mr. Crase. I understand; but those chambers of commerce have
not been able to give you anything definitely as to how long the
disturbance would continue down there.
Mr. Fitzpatrick. No.
Mr. Cuase. And the objection is based purely upon something
that exists, but you do not know to what extent.
Mr. Frrzearrick. We know that there would be a disturbance,
but how great it would be, or how long it would last, is difficult to say.
Mr. Cuase. And you have not measured that disturbance, or
what part of the economic disturbance is caused by the immigration
of these people?
Mr. Frrzratrick. What is that again, Mr. Congressman.
Mr. Cuase. You have not measured that economic disturbance
created there in the Southwest, and the economic disturbance that
is created in other sections of the country, by the immieration of these
Mexicans.
Mr. Firzrarrick. No; we have not found as yet anything to show
that the Mexican immigrants were causing any serious disturbance
elsewhere. We have not felt that employment of Mexicans in the
Gary district, or the Chicago district, or the Bethlehem or Pittsburgh
districts has caused any serious condition yet.
Mr. EsteRLY. Do you not know that there are many Americans,
native population, out of jobs in those districts, as the result of this
immigration?
Mr. Firzratrick. Well, in theory that may be so. ‘
Mr. Esrerny. And, practically if is so.
Mr. Green. Certainly.
Mr. EsTerLy. Yes.
The CuairMan. Now, to go back to your statement with regard to
Chicago, and in connection with charity—that would come under the
provisions of the civic organizations.
Mr. FrrzpaTrick. You mean so far ds his social connection with it
is concerned.
The Crareman. Yes. In Chicago, is it not a fact, with regard to
the charities, that the Mexican is there in numbers, out of work,
in distress, and about the last of the needy to receive charity? Is
that not one of the problems?
Mr. Fitzpatrick. That certainly is a problem of this Mexican
immigration, and that forms a basis for some serious work to be done.
The CuairMaN. How did the Mexican get into Chicago?