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Mr. Frrzeatrick. Well, I mean this, I do not think that we have
available at the present time any carefully prepared information
about the extent of the employment of Mexicans in the packing
houses and steel mills in the Chicago district and in other districts.
This has not been carefully analyzed. :
The CuatrMaN. Are you doing anything to check upon that?
Mr. Frrzeatrick. We are making some studies on that now.
The Cuatrman. Investigating that matter now?
Mr. Fitzpatrick. Yes.
The Cuairman. Do you expect this to be a live issue at your next
annual meeting?
Mr. Frrzratrick. Very much so.
The CuatrmaN. And that is in May?
Mr, Frrzpatrick. That is in May.
The CualrMAN. Are you sending out any literature in reference
to it, or any questionnaires?
Mr. Fitzpatrick. No. The Immigration Committee wants to
get out a factual report and have it ready for distribution at that
time without any recommendations one way or the other. but attempt
to get all of the facts that it can get.
The CrairmanN. You are working on that now?
Mr. Fitzpatrick. We are working on that now, and we do not
think we can get sufficient information as to the causes and effects to
make a final analysis, to go into the thing thoroughly, but we do
think that we can get enough reliable information to enable us to face
the problem, to give the problem its proper perspective and setting.
The CuarrMAaN., And what is the name of the chairman of that
committee?
Mr. Firzeatrick. Karl DeLaittre, Minneapolis.
Mr. RuTHERFORD. Is it not a fact that as the result of the attitude
or position taken by the chamber of commerce on the proposed legislation,
 that many investors in industrial plants of this country have
begun to doubt that there is a real competition growing out of the
influx of the Mexicans into this country?
Mr. Fitzpatrick. I did not get that. May I ask you to state that
question again?
Mr. RuraerForp. I will ask it again. Is it not a fact that as the
result of the position taken by the Chamber of Commerce of the
United States with respect to the proposed bills pending, that a great
many investors in this country are beginning to doubt that there is
real competition growing out of the influx of the Mexican into this
country?
Mr. Frrzeatrick. Well now, in the first place, the chamber has
no position on specific bills. We simply have this general position.
We are simply expressing the feeling of our members, which is that
it is a mistake to extend the principle of the quota to Mexico. I
mean, that is not a position as to certain or particular bills, but a
general statement. Co :
Now, you said investors, doubt among investors, as to whether
there is competition? Co ]
Mr. Ruraerrorp. Yes, if they are not properly beginning to think
that there is a very serious condition.
Mr. FrrzeaTrick. As between the Mexicans.
Mr. RuTHERFORD. And American labor.