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cussion, and the particular features that we decided to take up in this 
hearing. I did not wish to interrupt the governor. It was my 
understanding that we would hear absolutely nothing but technical 
duscussion of importance. We are all agreed, I think, governor, as 
to the need of a bill. I know I feel very strongly that way. I think 
we are all agreed that we should have farm relief, and we should pass 
it at this session. I think there is no dispute in this committee on 
that. The only question is as to the process and the exact, concrete 
form that that relief should take, and I think that our understanding 
was that our hearings were to be absolutely confined to that type of 
discussion. I did not want to say anything while the governor was 
speaking, but I wish to object to any other witnesses coming here 
and telling us of the need of legislation. 
The CHAIRMAN. Do vou have reference to amendments? 
Mr. Fort. To the bill, the specific proposal. We all agree, Mr. 
Chairman, that we should have some kind of legislation. Of course, 
there is a difference of opinion as to the particular form of legislation 
we should have, but I think we all agree that we should have some 
legislation. 
Mr. Fuomer. I am sure that Mr. Donaghey will not go into the 
conditions on the farm, because we all know about those, but he will 
be able to put in some facts in connection with the bill that will be 
helpful. 
The CrairMaN. Without objection it is so ordered. 
We probably could not make any headway by going ahead now 
for the little time remaining, and we will adjourn at this time until 
10 o’clock tomorrow morning. 
(At 11.50 o'clock a. m. the hearing was adjourned until 10 o’clock 
a. m.. tomorrow. Wednesday, Jani '& 1928.) 
House oF REPRESENTATIVES, 
COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, 
Wednesday, January 18, 1928. 
The committee met, pursuant to adjournment, at 10 o'clock a. m. 
in the committee hearing room, House Office Building, Hon. Gilbert 
N. Haugen presiding. 
Present: Messrs. Haugen (chairman), Purnell, Williams of Tlli- 
nois, Ketcham, Hall, Pratt, Fort, Menges, (Clark, Andresen, Adkins, 
Aswell, Kincheloe, Jones, Swank, Fulmer. Rubey, Doyle, McSwee- 
ney, and Houston. 
The CuArrMAN. The committee will come to order. You may 
proceed, Mr. Gray. 
FURTHER STATEMENT OF CHESTER H. GRAY, WASHINGTON 
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AMERICAN FARM BUREAU FED- 
ERATION 
Mr. Gray. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, we 
were discussing yesterday some changes proposed by the farm con- 
ferees in regard to the advisory councils, and at that time I had not 
had opportunity, nor had any of the rest of the conferees, to write 
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