AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 15 Mr. Gray. Yes, sir. Mr. Apkins. The proposed change makes the number seven from each district? Mr. Gray. Yes, sir. Mr. Apkins. Without regard to commodities? Mr. Gray. That is right. Mr. Apkins. Do your conferees believe that that is a better scheme? For instance, if you were going to declare an operation period on corn, that your advisory council would be more helpful to the board on corn than, for instance, an advisory council representing corn? Do they think it is a more satisfactory plan than the special commodity advisory council? Mr. Gray. We do, for one or two reasons, the first one being that the council, as we are suggesting it to you now by amendment, would be more of a permanent institution in each Federal land-bank district, and the men, seven in number, if that is the number that the com- mittee desires to leave in the council, would study the agricultural situation in their district in relation to whatever commodity had a surplus or needed loaning facilities, such as are provided for in this bill. In other words, the seven men in the advisory council would have a complete picture of agriculture in that district rather than a special- ized picture on one particular commodity. The second reason that we think it would be advisable and better than the old plan is that the council would not need to be set up in emergency situations, if corn should be superabundant, or wheat, or cotton, or what not, but the council would be there ready to work whenever a condition justifying operation of the bill materialized. Mr. KincHELOE. Don’t you think many of those members might be there but would not know anything about the matter under con- sideration? Mr. Gray. I think not, Congressman Kincheloe. Mr. KincaELOE. Does the man in the land bank district up in New York know anything about cotton or tobacco? Mr. Gray. He does not need to know. Mr. KincHELOE. He does not need to know? He is supposed to be representative of the farmer. Mr. Gray. He is, for the commodities produced in that district. Mr. KiNncHELOE. So that if there comes up in the northwest a question of whether they are going to have an operating period on cotton he has to represent his people up there, but what information has be got about cotton to intellicently represent them or anybody else? Mr. GrAY. If he lives in a district and is a member of the advisory council in a district where cotton is not grown he is not consulted in any operations relative to cotton. Mr. KincHELOE. What is the reason he is not? Mr. Gray. The amendment we are coming to. I believe, will answer your question. Mr. KincrELOE. Now, what amendment is that? We have been coming to them for some time. Let us see what one that is. Mr. JoxEs. It is on page 2. Mr. Gray. It is the amendment at the top of page 2 in the sheet which has been distributed, applicable to section 7 of the bill. You