AGRICULTURAL RELIEF passed at the last session of Congress is better than” the one in the Haugen bill. Mr. Gray. If I should admit that there might be others in this room from these farm groups who would deny it. I have heard some, 1 think, of the conferees on this question, say they prefer to have the regular method of appointing this board. They say that ander the machinery set up last year, which was very heavy and voluminous, made so mostly by Senate amendments, it would get {arm organizations into strife, one against the other, as to whom they should agree upon to be recommended to the President. They want to avoid that. Mr. KincaeLoE. They have changed their mind on it now and say that this provision in the pending Haugen bill is better? Mr. Gray. I don’t know whether they have said it is better or not, but I know some of them have said they are perfectly willing to male the change. So if I should say I like the provision of last year better than the provision of this year I might not be correctly voicing the concensus of opinion of the conference. Mr. KincrELOE. I am asking vour opinion. to express 1t? Mr. Gray. I don’t care to express it, Congressman Iincheloe. I have no personal opinions on any of these bills. I have only an official opinion, and my official opinion, representing the American Farm Bureau Federation, is that this bill as now drafted, relative to the make-up of the Federal Farm Board. is satisfactory to the group advocating the change. Mr. KincuELOE. What do you mean Where do you get that official opinion? : Mr. Gray. From the mandate of the membership of the American Farm Bureau Federation. Mr. KincHELOE. Do you mean the farmers? Mr. Gray. Yes, sir; those farmers who are members. Mr. KincHELOE. Do you think the farmers thoroughly under- stand the difference between the provision in the bill ss it passed last year and the pending Haugen bill? Mr. Gray. Not necessarily. Mr. KixcHELOE. I want to tell you right now that you got more votes on the floor of the House by reason of that being a board ap- pointed at the direction of the farmers than anv other thing that I know of. Mr. Gray. Theat is a matter of opinion. Mr. Kincr ‘Vell. you haven™ + so you haven’ . right to express yours. Mr. Graz. '~» what got the votes. opinion. Mr. KINCHELOE. As I~» to get some information as whose instance. Mr. Gray. It was done, as I have said, by the concensus of opinion, no one man deviating from this concensus of the conferees who have been at work on this bill for more than two years. Mr. KincueLoe. Well, where was it done? Mr. Gray. And attached to that change in the Federal farm board are the chances first presented in the advisory councils. 33