AGBICULTURAL RELIEF 87 Now, they talk about a bill that the President will sign. Of course, I do not think that any organization or any Member of Congress ought to sacrifice his principles just simply to get some kind of legis- lation. I am not going to be stampeded about it at all. Your people, if I understand you, your various organizations, have met not only since the last Congress and since the President vetoed the bill, but a long time before that, and you have long since come to the point that the equalization fee is the only thing that will over- come overproduction, and that is the reason you are for it, and you are still of that opinion. notwithstanding the President vetoed the bill. Mr. Gray. We are of that opinion. Mr KincHELOE. I was just wondering, in your resolutions that you adopted in Chicago, where you eulogized Congress’ for passing this bill, why you did not go further and put the responsibility where it, belongs for it not becoming law. Was that discussed in any way? Mr. Gray. I do not hesitate to answer that that question was discussed. Mr. KiNcHELOE. But there are no whereases or resolves or con- demnation of the person who made the enactment of that bill impos- sible. That was not done. Mr. Gray. That was not stated in the resolution. Mr. KixcHELOE. I say it was not. There night have been a good deal of chewing the rag around there, but nobody went on record. [Laughter.] Now, I think you will acree that there is the same necessity for farm legislation that there was before. Mr. GRAY. It is just as necessary now as it was four years ago, when we first appeared in behalf of this legislation. Mr. KincHELOE. Do you think the farmer and the agricultural interests of this country are in as bad shape as they ever were, not- withstanding the Evening Star here last nicht came out to the: contrary? Mr. Gray. Will you hold your question awhile until T make a remark along that line, please? Mr. KINCHELOE. Yes. Mr. Gray. Through the courtesy of the American Farm Bureau Federation and through our close relationship with all the activities of the land-grant colleges and universities, I am transmitting to each Member of Congress to-day, or you may receive it to-morrow, the report of the special committee of the Association of Land Grant Colleges and Universities upon the agricultural situation. I wish each member of this committee would give studious attention to that report, because it, for one thing, bears out what T have said, that the agricultural situation is just as emergent as it ever has been; and if there is anybody in the United States that knows and understands the agricultural situation, in my humble opinion, it is the officials, the teaching personnel, the technicians. in the land-grant colleges and universities. Mr. Hare. Had we not better do something to help them? Mr. Gray. We had better do something to help them, and some- thing constructive. Mr. KincHELOE. You don’t think really they got any of that in- formation from the farm papers, the Washington Post and Washing- ton Star. do vou? [Lauchter.l