56 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF Mr. Gray. Compulsory pooling in what way? Mr. CLark. Compulsory pooling of the particular product. Mr. Gray. Pooling the product but not necessarily the producers thereof. Mr. CLark. Why does it not. naturally follow that you would eliminate all of your cooperatives sooner or later, right under that proposition. Mr. Gray. On the contrary, under the McNary-Haugen bill or the equalization plan, instead of eliminating the cooperatives you enhance them because under the contractural relationships which they go into with the Federal farm board in the handling of the commodity which is being operated upon, at the end of their year’s operation there will be in the cooperative organization, let us say it may be the American Cotton Growers Exchange, the residue from dealings of the contractural agent, to do the work which the Federal farm board wanted done. Nobody outside of the organization will be permitted to get that revenue or patronage dividend. There is the inducement to come in, of that patronage dividend at the end of the operation, as well as getting the benefit of the generally enhanced prices, which goes to the outsider as well as the insider. The equaliza- tion plan attracks men to the farm organizations instead of scaring them away. If there are no other questions, Mr. Chairman, it being almost "dignmning time, I presume I may just say these words in con- clusion. If the McNary-Haugen bill is passed after approval by this com- mittee and it does not work, if it does not do what we expect it to do and have appeared before this committee maintaining that it will do the responsibility lies upon those farm organizations which have so long advocated it and are still continuing to advocate it. If any other bill is reported, of a negative character, setting up a Federal farm board with slight and emergency powers, only, for operation, and it fails to do that which this committee wants it to do, that responsibility is on this committee. Mr. KincreLoe. Mr. Gray, just right there, before you quit. I don’t agree with you. I think whatever bill is passed here, whether It 1s successful or unsuccessful, the responsibility is on Congress, because we are the people who are elected and sent here to enact laws, and so far as I am concerned, I am ready to take my own responsibility. Mr. Gray. Well, that is a point of view. ’ The Crairman. Have the representatives of the farmers and definite plan of procedure mapped out? Mr. KiLcore. Mr. Chairman, the cotton cooperatives have two matters. I do not know whether you wish to take them up this morning or not. We would not have time to conclude, but the cotton Cooperatives which have organizations in 14 of the 16 States pro- o ee ott on, have two matters which they would like to present One of them is the insurance provision whi i i i passed last year and the other Fone is ros dn ihe bill 3s 16 Sang i hos) Sols, cosperniives in their operations. last year, but it was not prone oe hie the Shute Committee like this committee to oi 0 this committee. e would ve us an opportunity to present that, and