AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 145 City, beginning with the latter part of October, November, and De- cember. Through the leadership of our producers’ organization and the cooperatives, we have gotten to the point where we can, through circularizing our members, induce them to produce more heavily in this shortage. Last vear we just went through it, and it so happened that the floods in New England forced us not only to produce enough bo take care of that shortage in that period in New York City, but as well, through private leadership, and without the aid of the law, we were also able to supply the New England fluid milk market. Mr. Stone. That is all right. You may be able to do that with some commodities by the means you used there, but on the cotton crop, when 1t depends on a period of five or six months’ growth for its production, it is of a totallv different character and presents a totally different situation. Mr. MEenNGEs. Mr. Stone, in regard to Mr. Clarke’s question, that is a matter of feeding. You can increase the flow of milk bv the kind and amount of feed you put into your cow. Mr. StoNE. Yes, sir. Mr. MExGcEs. That you can not do in a cotton crop. Mr. StoNE. You can not. Mr. MEenGEs. It is out of the question. If the prices are satis- factory for Mr. Clarke’s dairymen, they will put enough feed into their cows, of the right kind, to increase the flow of milk to produce the quantity needed. Mr. CLarkE. But the price will never be satisfactory to the pro- ducers, but it took individual and cooperative leadership to bring that about. Mr. MEeNGes. In other words, you simply informed them you could get a satisfactory price for your mil» - Mr. CLARkE. No. We never informed them we could get a sat- isfactory price, because in the long run, you can not satisfy any producer. Mr. Menges. I beg to differ with you there. Mr. KincHELOE. Mr. Stone, I heartily agree with you on the ques- sion of surplus. I think of all the basic products of this country there ought to be a surplus. I think it would be dangerous not to nave it. However, I do not agree with you that we are always going to have one, because I think if the boys and girls continue leaving the farms as they have in the last few years, I do not think we are zoing to have a surplus. I think we are going to have a deficit, but [ agree with you that the problem now that is uppermost and most mportant is to take care of the surplus. That is, to have fat years to go with the lean years. I may be a little premature, but I haven't got, to my satisfaction, your idea of how to do that. Mr. StoxE. I haven’t come to that. Mr. KincHELOE. I beg your pardon. Mr. Stone. Did you ever read “Rob Roy” when you were a boy? Mr. KiNcHELOE. Yes, sir. Mr. StoNE. You remember it was one of the most discouraging books in the world, because they were about three-quarters through before they ever introduced the hero, Rob Roy. So, I believe I have gone too far without coming to the milk in the coconut, but [ will hurry alone.