208 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF Mr. Morcan. Yes, sir. } Mr. AsweLL. Was there any other farm measure explained to these ople vou speak about? _ {Tonoan, We very carefully discussed every bill. We tried to reach them with every other bill we knew of and explain it to all of them and just discussed it with them. Mr. AsweLL. That resolution says no substitute was offered. There were two bills that came very nearly being substituted. Mr. Morcan. We discussed all those bills, and they were gone into very carefully, obtaining copies of as many as we could. Mr. AsweLL. Your resolution says there was no substitute offered. Mr. Crisp and I both had bills that came near being substituted. Mr. Apkins. You represent the dark tobacco people? Mr. Morgan. Yes, sir; we have tried organization, starting many years back. We started in the first time more than 20 years ago, at the time we had no cooperative association marketing laws, and 1 expect all of you gentlemen know the troubles we went through and the difficult time we had down there. It was simply the old, old story of the men that were in the organization making the price. We tried to force the other fellows to share part of the burden. They took the law into their hands, and we found within six or eight years it was not the proper way to do things. As a result, that was aban- doned and nothing was done about tobacco, and it remained at a low price, except during the war, until the bill was passed giving us agricultural legislation. Then we reorganized. Everything went along very well and we received 175,000,000 pounds of tobacco the first year. We held the price of tobacco to a fair and steady level of prices, with no fluctuation. Before we had this cooperative association, if one grade of tobacco were put in two baskets on the auction floor, one might bring $10 and the other $6. I have seen it as much as $10 difference between two baskets of tobacco of the same kind. It was absolutely speculation and gambling, and the farmer had to take the conse- quences. Mr. CLARKE. What is the present price of your tobacco? Mr. MoraGan. This year it is exceedingly hich. We have one of tne highest-priced crops we ever had. Mr. AswerLL. Higher than when your cooperative organization was operating? Mr. Morgan. I am coming to that a little later. Mr. AsweLL. Is it higher? gar, phansan It is considerably higher, yes, sir, than it has been re 7 ‘ you Jo Es. What percentage of the total tobacco crop is the type ; piatonesn. The oe normal crop of the United States is about 000 000. ed million, I think, and our normal crop is 250.- his Country around tren 20 per cent of the tobacco grown in Ir. MoraGan. ; Mr. JoxeEs. Your pg 2 about 20 per cont. . . nuantities. is it not? obacco 1s exported in considerable