AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 237 Mr. Kercaam. You do not take this democratic idea that my good friend Kincheloe is talking of that he was trying to convince vou about, that you want to see all the rest of the legs sawed off of the table? . Mr. WELLER. No, I do not, personally. We have some farmers that feel that that is the only way to get at it. Ve have no fight with labor, and we are not so jealous of the success of industry, because we are engaged in a kind of industry ourselves, because of this broad- acre method of farming that I am teiling you about. Mr. KercEAM. You said just a few moments ago that you thought possibly there was some misunderstanding and possibly a bit of ignorance among the farmers some years back, but as they have gone further along they have come to understand that the real idea is to put the farmer in the picture? Mr. WELLER. Four years ago it was more in the nature of feeling something was wrong. They realized that everything they were buying had gone up in price and that the exchange value of the bushels they produced had gone away down. Mr. KiNCHELOE. You do not think that the tariff on the manu- factured product that you and the other poor American farmers out there complain of has anything to do with *ne high price they are paying for it? Mr. WELLER. We do believe— Mr. KiNcHELOE. And not withstanding the precarious condition of your farmers out there you still believe that this protective tariff on such things as aluminum, steel, cotton goods, and woolen goods should not be lowered? Mr. WELLER. I did not say we believe that. Mr. KiNncaELOE. I understood you to say that in answer to Mr. Ketcham awhile ago. Mr. WELLER. Our answer was not critically indicative of that. We want to be brought up to the higher level. We realize that the tariff does make a difference in the price we pay for manufactured goods. Mr. Kinca products? Mr. WELLE: Mr. KINCHELOL. them? Mr. WELLER. I would not objet ++ it at all. Mr. KiNCHELOE. Are you not 1. vor of it? Mr. WELLER. My attitude on that is, we want to be brought up to the other fellow’s level. Mr. KinceELOE. Your idea, then, is that you know this high protective tariff is putting you fellows on the bum by reason of decreased purchasing power of the dollar, and the further reason that what they have to sell on the world’s market is not similarly protected. You realize they are starving, but you want to continue to vote the Republican ticket and continue to starve and advise these poor farmers to do that? Mr. WELLER. I want to say to you that the conditions are making lot of people think of the Democratic platform all right. Mr. KiNcHELOE. It is causing a whole lot of people in this country to think thay way. But the only time they do not do anything is on election davs. -.