202 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF Mr. KEHOE. Yes; undoubtedly. But effective to whom? Mr. Jones. It would be effective for the commodity it covers. Mr. Kenoe. I think.to the middleman, myself. Mr. Jones. If you take this fund and turn it over to the same people the equalization fee turned it over to, it will be just as effective no matter where the fund comes from, will it not? Mr. Kenoe. I do not know that it would. I do not think it would reach back to the grower. Mr. JonEs. As a matter of fact, Mr. Adkins’s figures are wholly erroneous, because he presumed you are going to have them in force at a specific figure in all of it. You can have them in effect when- ever they are needed, and you can not have them so they will collect just such an amount as 18 necessary to run operations in respect to the commodities. Then you can take the same machinery in the McNary-Haugen bill advisory council or export corporations and use the funds that are collected for the purpose of promoting the advantages of the farmers themselves. 7 Mr. KenoE. Mr. Jones, it is my hope and my belief, probably based upon the hope that many of these commodities would be shown, when the information was obtained by Government authority that there was no alarming surplus in this country. I am quite sure it would have been proven in our case of tobacco—that there would be no necessity for the operation at all this year. To illus- trate, there would be no necessity for calling upon the board to pfs at all, because tobacco is selling for 30 cents a pound. . : Jones. Under the bill which I have introduced, and which understand will be introduced by another Member, it- would not apply where the price was satisfactory; it would not a oly constant It would apply if the board saw it Was necessar jpn] th y either a surplus or conditions otherwise warranted A y buss as Mr. Keroe. What I would do would be to co tend for bill like we do for ours. When you could not get we 1 jo hte k oy hat is all T would do. get yours, 1 would take r. CLarkE. You are coming no iti Mr. Spon But I would urge vou . ee ours, position. ) r. ADKINS. There are not any of these schemes in respect of which you can not make a speech on both sides, as f 1 I went into th , ar as that 1s concerned. o that very thoroughly. Suppose we adopt that pol In my town Wo hive an institution that grinds our com and esa ve large number of con prodta—grids 40.000 to 30.000 Bust: finds surplus piling up oe dant policy and ou Istria os vantage—corn oil, corn starch, Sionh ples lh Too, ona 2 sort of stuff. If Congress adopts farm commodities have everything on ho puanifipchuten fe = itausent ind pailie solic rything on hus side and, as a matter of RE ry, © Cie rie the Ach ot he have the right to come here Mr Fen e debenture on my products? ”’ here, has bo mot guess he will be here all right; I guess he has been NN ADKINS. Sure. WM r. EHOE. Bu v 1 . contained in this bill ! bot, bets advising him to accept the provisions it. 40 tite Wil of the ~ alc ing a Democrat, he would gracefully sub- Mr. Jones. I will do that