276 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF Mr. Forr. And to do their grading as Mr. Clarke suggested, would they not? . Mr. KiLgore. Possibly we do not quite understand each other. We would have the same standards for grades and packages and packing that we now have, with such others as might be put into operation by the United States Department of Agriculture. Gen- erally, the Department of Agriculture is the authoritative agency for establishing standards, grades and packages. The States accept those and adopt them. Mr. CLarke. The world trade accepts them, in many respects. Mr. KiLcorE. They would be an operation; they would be used then just as now. But my thought is that you have to have some- body to take a product when it comes in and say what that grade or that staple, is referring to cotton particularly. The farmer does not know what the grades and staples of cotton are; he has to have technical experts to do that. The cooperative would perform that service, and in that way he would get the benefit of the premium on grade and staple, which the individual farmer has not gotten in the past. Mr. Fort. You do not think then that the board would protect the proper price for the growers on the cotton that graded differently from middling? Mr. KiLgore. The standard—I mean the basis for loans would be middling seven-eighth-inch in the case of cotton; that would be the standard. Of course, the premium that was above or below, the grower would get that. Mt. Fort. I am talking about purchases that the board makes to sustain the market. : ~ Mr. Kineore. The board would expect the cooperatives to do that if they were going to handle the surplus for it. Mr. Harr. Then, Doctor, you do not feel that the enactment of the law carrying the equilization fee is going to discourage the organiza- tion and the building up of the cooperative societies? Mr. KiLcore. I think it would encourage them. Mr. Kercaam. Doctor Kilgore, just before you leave the stand, one question: A little while ago I think you, in speaking of equaliza- tion fee plan called it a compulsory surplus operating proposition. Taking your cotton crop the last year, then, and supposing that the equilization fee has been determined by the board would be $2 a bale, and your production the last year was 18,000,000 bales. Then, if I understand you correctly, that $2 a bale would be spread not only over the surplus but over the whole crop? Mr. KivGore. Over the whole production; yes, sir. The Crairman. Will you go on to-morrow, Doctor? Mr. KiLGore.. Yes, sir. The CHAairMAN. Then, the committee will stand in recess until to-morrow morning at 10 o'clock. (Thereupon, at .12 o’clock m., the committee adjourned, to meet to-morrow, Tuesday, February 7, 1928, at 10 o’clock a. m.)