AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 405 We have on the Pacific coast, in Mr. Goss’s State of Washington, approximately 20,000 members, and they are growing rapidly. We have a membership from Oklahoma to the Lakes; we have a membership from Maine to California; and that membership embraces every type of American agriculture. It makes it a bit more difficult for our organization to approach a question and reach a conclusion than it would be for an organization in the Corn Belt than it would be for an organization in New England or an organization on the Pacific coast. Mr. AsweLr. Mr. Taber, why is it you do not have any membership mn the South? * Mr. Taser. We are organizing now in Virginia and Kentucky. Mr. AswerLr. I mean in the real South? Mr. TaBer. Where is the real South? Mr. AswerLL. Louisiana. [Laughter.] Mr. Tagger. I will come into your community and organize a grange next summer. Mr. AsweLr. I will meet you there. Mr. Taper. It is an agreement. Mr. AswerLn. All right. Mr. Taser. I will give you the obligation and the password. Mr. ANpreseN. Mr. Taber, there is no difference in the point of view as it affects the grange member or the other farmer: their problem is the same. Mr. TaBer. Absolutely the same; in the same territory. But let me make this point clear: That is why I read the resolution. The farmer in New England that feeds grain to dairy cows and to chickens is in a different relationship than the farmer that sells his grain; he has a different viewpoint of the problems of the equalization fee and on problems of the debenture. Mr. Apkins. One is interested in cheap corn and the other is inter->sted in high-priced corn? Mr. Taser. That is not altogether true. But the man interested in cheap corn and the man interested in high corn is in this relationship: The man who is going to feed the corn wants to be certain that there is comprehended in the legislation that he indorses a program whereby as the cost of his production increases he shall be compensated either by tariff adjustments or debenture adjustments; and our program is the only program that protects that particular individual. Mr. Apkixs. Do you yield right there? Mr. TaBer. I yield; yes. Mr. Apkixs. I think one of the most ardent high-tariff men I know of in Congress is a New England dairy farmer, who has talked with me about this matter frequently, and he has not only stated but reiterated the statement that when we developed our cheap productive land in the Middle West that we put the New England farmer out of the business of raising corn, and they had to go to dairying and the raising of chickens. “Now,” he said, “We have to buy your feed now, and you do not need to think that I would stand, after you have put us out of business on the grain production, for increasing the price of grain your produce ot J which we have got to buy to feed.” He explicitly stated that. Now, in other words, that is one of our great difficulties: One part 2f the country is the customer for the products crown in another