406 - AGRICULTURAL RELIEF part of the country; that is why it makes this such a hard problem to solve. We are all selfish, and we want to get the best of it. We ought to be frank about that. Mr. Taper. May I go a step further. Mr. Adkins? Mr. ApkiNs. Yes. Mr. Taper. I think you will find a large number of the New England, New York, Ohio, Wisconsin, and western dairymen that may be purchasers of feed are coming to realize the justice of a program that protects'the grain grower. Mr. Apkrns. That is what we are making an effort to accomplish. Mr. Taper. I find that we are selling carloads of Jersey cattle in our community to Nebraska, to Louisiana, to North Carolina, and other States; that people who are growing cotton and growing wheat are going into the dairy business. Now, it is nice for us to be able to sell our young stock, but we do not want too many men milking cows. Mr. Apxins. Right at that point: Our people do not like to milk cows; we would rather grow corn and grain and feed it to hogs and cattle. But they are preparing to have dairy cows just as soon as they can find the money with which to buy them and a little left over to pay the grocery bill. Mr. KincueLoE. 1 want to ask you something along the line of the questions asked by Mr. Anderson. I have been thinking along this line ever since this hearing started. You say the three big national organizations are the Grange, the American Farm Bureau Federation, and the Farmers’ Union, and that you have tried to get together and you can not. Yet the biggest thing that confronts the American agriculture is farm relief. I was just wondering when the poor farmer is going to get any relief when you leaders disagree on the fundamentals. Mr. Taser. I want to tell you, sir, I have laid awake many a night thinking on that same problem. Mr. Kincueroe. The individual farmer will not be helped very much on how much sleep you and I may lose. But I was wondering when the individual farmer is going to get any real benefit. Mr. Taser. He is going to get real benefits just as soon as the leaders of farm organizations forget politics, forget selfishness. Mr. KincurrLog. I think you are right about that, too. Mr. Tagger. I am sure I am obligated and ready to go as far as any man in the whole group. Mr. KincHELOE. You are the leader of one of those organizations? Mr. J BER. I am. r. KincuerLoe. Do you forget your politics? Mr. Taper. I have tried to. se Mr. KiNncueLoE. You think then the sinners are the other fellows? Mr. TABER. I do not say that. I am readv to accept mv share of the responsibility. Mr. KixcueLoE. Have you done it? I am trying to get you to amplify on that a little bit, and I heartily agree with you that the farmer will get some relief as soon as you leaders quit politics and petty jealousies. That is the substance of what you say. Mr. Crarke. And thinks in terms of the farmer instead of their organization.