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      <div>308 
AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 
Grange, not David Lubin, not the distinguished economist, Doctor 
Stewart, of Illinois—but Alexander Hamilton pointed out that the 
first step in the tariff system was the other half of the tariff. We have 
just had a half tariff system a century and a quarter, and we penal- 
1zed agriculture by having half of it. As master of the National 
Grange I am not going to discuss high tariff, I am not going to 
discuss low tariff, and I am not going to discuss free trade. The 
grange will take its chances and the farmers of America will take 
their chances under any one of those three systems, provided he gets 
a fair onl, But the farmer is going to insist on something he has 
not yet had. 
As an individual I have very strong convictions. The first political 
speech I heard was made by the great statesman, William McKinley 
who talked 2 hours and 10 minutes, and as a boy who stayed from 
school to listen to that speech we enlisted for life. 
From the standpoint of the National Grange, high tariff, low 
tariff, free trade—we never discuss them. But 40 years ago the 
policy was laid down from which we have not deviated: “Tariff 
for all or tariff for none.” We farmers used to be thin-skinned 
when we were told we were talking politics. Oscar Underwood made 
the change from free trade, while in Congress, to advocate high pro- 
tective policy. Oscar Underwood did it because he was represent- 
ing his constituents; they had ceased to think in terms of politics 
and began to think in terms of business. 
Mr. Crarke. The man who succeeded in the McKinley district is 
now a distinguished member of this committee. 
Mr: Tourn, I am well aware of that fact. 
Ir. CrargEe. Congressman McS itt ( 
noted Dome. g cOweeney, sitting near the wall, a 
Mr. Taser. We only hope that Mr. McSweeney in the years ahead 
renders that same distinguished service to the public that the beloved 
McKinley rendered. He comes from a great district 
Bus going back to this problem, and I am taking more time than I 
In ende to develop it, but the point I am trying to make clear is 
pat we are trying to bring the farmer under the tariff and to bring 
develope within the industrial and commercial svstem we have 
Going back to Hamilton: He clearl i 
Naud overtale us as we porlized the baie: edocs. “oT Ne 
ow a be Teale gon Later on 3 13s not care to discuss it to-day. 
ME. JOXES. oI fac £ ion 1 
his message in 1791 In the reps’ o 2 Ina te that recommendation in 
Ad be as e lreasury to the Congress, 
Mr. Taeer. You are ri ht. Th ion i i 
great document, and I on profonadly glad to den nan hat 
an "1 1 : ne 1 
ona 1) ope a lot of other people will read it, because you will find in 
Tha me surprising things, some surprising prophesy. 
fariffs com, pass over a long period of development. Protective 
s came and went. Agricul £ . 
could not be brought inte ure requently suffered because it 
mist agrees that the [otetin rs wou WW Ar sedieg 
ably affect the price of that modity SF thoatty can not favor. 
rls, wale hr at commodity if there is an exportable 
monopoly control of the commodity. Unfor-</div>
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