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AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 
Mr. Menges. Was this land you are talking about now in the 
higher elevations of the Appalachian Mountains used for cotton 
before you went into the dairy business? 
Mr. Kingore. No; that would be the cheese-making area. But 
the creameries are in the lower areas that do grow cotton; and dairies 
are taking the place of other farming industries. 
Mr. MenGes. Then you are raising the crops there to feed your 
herds? 
Mr. KiLcorE. More largely than we have been, but not to the 
extent that would be most profitable to us. But we are gradually 
coming to grow the feeds with which to feed our dairy and other 
cattle. 
Mr. Menges. Will that industry be developed sufficiently by 
and by to feed your cottonseed meal? 
Mr. Kivcore. Well, not all of it; we can still spare you some in 
New England. 
Mr. Menges. I am not from New England. We largely raise our 
own feeds. 
Mr. KiLGcore. The more we develop the dairy industry or other 
livestock industry the more cottonseed meal we will use ourselves. 
For at the price 1t brings it is perhaps the most valuable concentrate 
on the market, particularly for dairy and beef production. 
The thought I wanted to bring to this committee, Mr. Chairman, 
in regard to that is that we are having to shift from one crop to 
another, within very brief periods, and a measure which would 
stabilize one crop and not another would not be permanent, and it 
would not be effective. 
We are for the McNary-Haugen bill, which we believe would 
operate effectively with all of the staple crops, and it would bring 
about an adjustment of prices and acreages between the different 
crops. So that there would not be those wide and ruinous swings 
from one crop to another within very brief periods of time. We want, 
and for that reason we advocate, this as the most comprehensive and 
effective measure which has been presented to Congress for bringing 
about this stabilization in production, because it would bring about, 
we believe, a relative stabilization in prices between wheat and 
corn and cotton, tobacco, cattle, and dairy products; and without 
that sort of interstabilization between crops we can not have the 
stability in agriculture that has been brought about reasonably in the 
different lines of industry. 
Just as a side thought, I want to say that the milk producers and 
handlers, particularly of fluid milk, are accustomed to the use of the 
principle of the McNary-Haugen bill. I operate myself a small milk, 
ice cream, and creamery plant. We have one price for fluid milk that 
goes to the regular trade, and for the surplus which can not be dis- 
tributed in that way there is a lower price for its use for buttermilk 
or ice cream, and for butter and other products. 
The principle of the MeN ary-Haugen bill is in practice there. 
We do not have to have that enacted into law that we may use it, 
because we only have a small territory where we can work out the 
matter through agreement and operate. The same is true in a great 
many of the milk and. creamery plants in the big cities and through- 
out the country. They use the principle of the MeN ary-Haugen bill. 
aay. Mra, Do you have cooperative control of prices of those