AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 53% anks; and if it does we can look the future in the face with courage and conence. Now, following that—— Mr. ANDRESEN. What date was that? Mr. Apkins. May 18, 1920. Mr. ANDRESEN. Was that President Harding? Mr. Apkins. No; that was Harding, the governor of the Federal Reserve Board. I should have specified more particularly, but I thought everybody understood that. Now, what further confirms in my mind the object sought in this matter being carried out, you can go over here to the Congressional Library to read the Manufacturers’ Record about what Mr. McAdoo said about that in December. This was December 23, 1920. Mr. McAdoo, after they had put their program of raising the rediscount rate into effect, made a special reference to the farmer: We can not excuse inaction nor dismiss the matter with a mere observation that deflation is necessary and that farmers must take their medicine along with the rest of the country. * * * When colossal losses like those the farmers are now sustaining overtake them, every line of industry suffers, factories close, business shrinks, labor is thrown out of emplovment, and confidence s seriously shaken. * * * [t is the imperative duty of those in civil authority and of those who control credit to exercise their powers so as to prevent needless distress and preserve confidence. Now, at the time Mr. McAdoo made this statement this was the situation, taken from the records of the Chicago Board of Trade: In July, 1920, No. 3 corn sold in Chicago for $1.53 per bushel. When Mr. McAdoo made this statement this same grade of corn was selling on the Chicago market for 73 cents per bushel. and the following June sold for 60 cents per bushe. And the same thing: I have gone to the Chicago markets on No. 2 red winter wheat, on cattle and hogs, where about the same proportion of losses in prices were apparent at the time Mr. McAdoo made the statement, and he felt so alarmed that he thought that some immediate action should be taken about not putting the rediscount rate up to such an extent that it was necessary for those fellows to shove all their stuff on the market and ruin the country. So that to my mind and from the record made, not only from the President of the United States but the Federal Reserve Board and the reaction we got from our markets, led me to a firm conclusion that the primary object at that time of increasing the rediscount rates was to lower the price of wheat; and evidently it had that effect, did it not? Mr. Anperson. It had that effect. You are entitled to vour opinion on the subject. . Mr. Apkins. I am quoting from the record. Mr. AswerLL. May I ask a question? Mr. ANDERSON (continuing). And I know you are entitled to draw such conclusions from that record as you want to draw, but having gone into the proposition to some extent, I do not agree with the conclusions you have reached, and we can not agree about it. Mr. Apkins. That is fair. Mr. Fort. Is it not true, richt on this point, Mr. Anderson, that simultaneously with these low prices for commodities of the agricultural nature of other commodities. practically speaking they suffer