1 0 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF Mr. Jones. You must admit that on such commodities as cotton and wheat, of which we produce a surplus, the tariff is not as effective as it is on aluminum, and such commodities as that. Mr. AnpERrsON. Well, of course, there is involved in the aluminum situation the control of supply as well as a number of other factors? Mr. Jones. We could name a number of articles. I simply mentioned aluminum. It is not as effective on commodities of which we produce a surplus as it is on commodities of which we do not produce a surplus. : Mr. ANpErsoN. That is probably true. Mr. Jones. Well, that is true, is it not? Mr. ANDERSON. Due to better organization behind the product, as well as to the fact that the tariff exists. Mr. Jones. And, undoubtedly, then so far as—— Mr. ANpErsoN. If you had as good a marketing agency behind wheat—— Mr. Jones. What did you say? Mr. ANDERSON. Isay if you had as good a marketing agency behind wheat or cotton as you have behind some of the industrial commodi- ties, the tariff would perhaps be just as effective on wheat or on cotton. if you had a tariff on that. Mr. Jones. That is an impossible supposition, because is has been tried. Mr. Menges. They ought to have an organization behind them. Mr. ANpERsoN. That is what I am trying to do, to get an organiza- tion behind the marketing of those products. which they do not now have and ought to have. Mr. Jones. If you had such an organization, but that is going into the realm of dreams that, so far as the tariff side is concerned, does not seem to be possible unless some means can be had of equaliz- ing the disparity. This tariff situation, 1 think, unquestionably has produced a higher price for the manufactured articles covered, or there would not be such a tendency on the part of those manufactur- ing such articles to hang onto it. Undoubtedly, if you look at the list of prices of the various articles the farmer must buy—and he must buy a great many manufactured articles—you will find that that price is relatively very much higher, that is, they have increased in much greater ratio, than farm prices have increased. 1 mean the relative price of manufactured products covered by the tariff and the price of farm commodities is very much out of proportion as com- pared with the relative price between manufactured articles and farm commodities of 10 years ago. A list was put in the record last year showing that; and the Department of Agriculture has given these ficures to show that manufactured prices are generally considered higher in proportion than they were 10 years ago. That is the situa- tion that must be handled some way, and I do not see how you are really going to solve that problem by simply having a marketing scheme. I think in some way you want to bring the farmer under that tariil system and make it effective or reduce the system. I do not see any other than one of these two ways of solving that situation. Mr. ANpERsoN. I do not see how you can command the loyalty of the farmer or anybody else by law in any plan of stabilization or stimulation. or whatever vou want to call it. oN [es] on oO | « om 4 L-¢ a v © < 2 £ [od Q Fle ~ [se ed 0 —- oO Lh oO ™ OO nN S Qo a 3 i Ke . — — © t~ -— © — [=] Nd un << Tol oa 3 oN m oN ) He Pe J — - m