AGRICULTURAL RELIEF

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Mr. Jones. You must admit that on such commodities as cotton
and wheat, of which we produce a surplus, the tariff is not as effective
as it is on aluminum, and such commodities as that.

Mr. ANDERSON. Well, of course, there is involved in the aluminum
situation the control of supply as well as a number of other factors?

Mr. Jones. We could name a number of articles. I simply
mentioned aluminum. It is not as effective on commodities of which
we produce a surplus as it 1s on commodities of which we do not
produce a surplus. :

Mr. ANpErsoN. That is probably true.

Mr. Jones. Well, that is true, is it not?

Mr. ANpERSON. Due to better organization behind the product,
as well as to the fact that the tariff exists.

Mr. Jones. And, undoubtedly, then so far as—

Mr. ANpErsoN. If you had as good a marketing agency behind
wheat——

Mr. Jones. What did you say?

Mr. ANDERSON. Isay if you had as good a marketing agency behind
wheat or cotton as you have behind some of the industrial commodi-
ties, the tariff would perhaps be just as effective on wheat or on cotton,
if you had a tariff on that.

Mr. Jones. That is an impossible supposition, because is has been
tried.

Mr. Me~ces. They ought to have an organization behind them.

Mr. AxpErsoN. That is what I am trying to do, to get an organiza-
tion behind the marketing of those products, which they do not now
have and ought to have.

Mr. Jones. If you had such an organization, but that is going
nto the realm of dreams that, so far as the tariff side is concerned,
does not seem to be possible unless some means can be had of equaliz-
ng the disparity. This tariff situation, I think, unquestionably has
produced a higher price for the manufactured articles covered, or
there would not be such a tendency on the part of those manufactur-
ing such articles to hang onto it. Undoubtedly, if you look at the
list of prices of the various articles the farmer must buy—and he
must buy a great many manufactured articles—you will find that
that price is relatively very much higher, that is, they have increased
in much greater ratio, than farm prices have increased. I mean the
relative price of manufactured products covered by the tariff and the
price of farm commodities is very much out of proportion as com-
pared with the relative price between manufactured articles and farm
commodities of 10 years ago. A list was put in the record last year
showing that; and the Department of Agriculture has given these
figures to show that manufactured prices are cenerally considered
hicher in proportion than they were 10 years ago. That is the situa-
tion that must be handled some way, and I do not see how you are
really going to solve that problem by simply having a marketing
scheme. I think in some way you want to bring the farmer under
that tari system and make it effective or reduce the system. I
do not see any other than one of these two wavs of solving that
situation.

Mr. ANpERsoN. I do not sce how you can command the loyalty of
the farmer or anybody else by law in snv plan of stabilization or
stimulation, or whatever you want to cau it.