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AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 
Mr. Warrace. Certainly. 
Mr. Apkins. The body of consumers represented in your organi- 
zation, I take it, depend on your leaders to look into these various 
legislative questions that affect them directly or indirectly, and keep 
them informed of what is going on, etc. 
Mr. WaLLace. We try to keep our people informed. 
Mr. Apkins. And you think that that body of consumers is, of 
course, backing your attitude on this legislation, or you would not 
be here advocating it? 
Mr. WarLLace. That is the story. 
Mr. Apkins. Now, the great body of consumers that are not or- 
ganized, that are not affiliated with any other organization, naturally 
would be subject to other propaganda. would they not, that might 
be antagonistic? 
Mr. Warpace. My experience, Mr. Adkins, with the unorganized 
is that they are inarticulate; they have not the means of receiving the 
information; they have not the means of giving out their expressions. 
Mr. Apkins. They would probably be influenced by the news- 
papers’ attitude on these questions in their local communities. 
Mr. WALLACE. We have found that among the workers they are 
influenced by and generally reiterate what we say. That is because 
of the mere fact that a man is estopped from organizing—does not 
keep him from having organization sympathies; and our experience 
is that 95 per cent of the unorganized subscribe to our policies, only 
they have not the means of expressing themselves. 
Mr. Apxins. The question I wanted to ask of you is this: Among 
the unorganized in the great big consuming centers, that are not 
directly in contact with an organization such as you represent, that 
get their information from the press in the large centers, which 1s 
opposed to farm relief, I will say that frankly? 
Mr. WALLACE. Yes. 
Mr. Apkins. They would be more likely to be influenced by what 
they see in that press than they would bv what your activity is, 
would they not? 
Mr. WaLnace. They would feel so, Mr. Adkins—1 cent added 
to the cost of a loaf of bread—and possibly resent it, taking that by 
itself. 
Mr. Apkins. That is the point I wanted to get. 
Mr. WarLace. They would not know what it meant eventually. 
Mr. AsweLL. The press might be qpposed to the Haugen bill, but 
[ would not make the assertion that the press is opposed to the 
farmers. 
Mr. Apkins. I am talking about the Haugen bill. Another thing 
they are very much concerned about the farmer having to pay this 
equalization fee. It is the farmers’ funeral if it is bad; and the 
peculiar thing about it is that they are so deeply concerned about it 
that they do not want him to pay his own way. 
Mr. WarLace. They do not want us to pay our dues. 
Mr. MEeNGEs. I notice you said a little while ago in answer to a 
question by Mr. Kincheloe that the price of labor in the industries 
is based upon the products that are exported. 
Mr. KincHELOE. He said that in regard to the textile industry. 
Mr. Warrace. In one industry.