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AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 
Mr. Sexauer. We are going to get our benefit from it. 
Mr. Jones. If you are not going to share your part of the burden, 
do you not want the other farmers to share all of the burden of each 
commodity? You want to get the benefit—that is just the trouble 
with cooperative marketing to-day, the member has carried the non- 
member on his shoulders. You want to be in the position of a non- 
member; you want the farm organizations to carry out a program 
here that will make the producers of that commodity or those com- 
modities bear the burdens and let your people share the benefits, 
without bearing the burdens; is not that correct? 
Mr. SexavuER. Well, if we are as selfish as that, the fellows who have 
advocated that and who seem to be glad of our support, have not 
indicated it. 
Mr. Jones. You want to pay no fee at all; do you; you do not 
want your members to be levied on for a fee in this proposition? 
Mr. SeExavugR. Should it be necessary to do this, that might be 
necessary; however, we do not conceive it is necessary. 
Mr. Jones. Are you willing for it to be so amended that whatever 
fee is levied on other commodities that a measurably similar fee will 
be levied on milk products? 
Mr. SExXAUER. Provided it is necessary to use the bill for dairy 
products, and the dairy associations say it is not necessary. 
Mr. Jones. But you do not want the fee? : 
Mr. SExAUER. Because the dairy associations and those interested 
in dairying do not feel it is necessary. 
Mr. Jones. In other words, they want the benefits without the 
burdens, do they not; that is their position as stated by you? 
(No response.) 
Mr. KincHELOE. But they do think it necessary for those other 
fellows to pay the equilization fee? 
Mr. SExaUER. I would not like to state that. 
Mr. FuLMER. Mr. Jones, I think he has made himself clear that if 
they get in competition because of the other fellow— 
Mr. Jones. No, that is not his stated position. His stated 
position is that they do not want the milk products in the bill; and if 
they do not put milk products in the bill this board will have no 
power to levy a fee. The statement that he would be willing to pay 
the fee if necessary does not alter your position. You do not want 
to be put in a position where you would be subject to a fee? | 
Mr. SexaUuER. My position is that dairy products, with the 
1% of agriculture if rightly protected, will never need the help of this 
bill. 
Mr. Jones. Especially if the power to levy the fee does not include 
the power to levy on dairy products. 
Mr. SExaUuEr. But it will not be necessary to operate on dairy 
products. 
Mr. KincaELOE. But you think it will be necessary on the other 
commodities? 
Mr. SExavER. It evidently is. Those who have made a study of 
these other commodities far more than I have—I know nothing about 
cotton, I know nothing about corn and nothing about wheat—but 
those who have made a study of these other commodities seem to feel 
it is necessary to do something for those other commodities.