564 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 
Mr. Fort. You have made that very clear. But the point I am 
getting at is that if it is economically desirable for the Nation to raise 
a surplus which can not be profitably sold, in one agricultural com- 
modity why is it not in all? 
Mr. SEXAUER. Because the very shift can be made, makes it easy 
bo shift from grain to dairy production as they are needed, and they 
will not shift 1t to them. 
Mr. Fort. We have a lot of unused land yet. Should we adopt a 
program that made it desirable to utilize that land for the production 
of further surpluses, etther of dairy products or of wheat? 
Mr. SexaUuER. Only so far as perhaps it might be necessary to 
strengthen. the economic structure of the country. 
Mr. Fort. To use further land? 
Mr. SExAUER. In so far as it might be necessary to strengthen the 
economic structure. 
Mr. Fort. In regard to this particular commodity, if any equali- 
zation fee program should ever be operated as to dairy products, it 
ought to apply to raw products of milk, should it not? 
Mr. SExaUER. There is some question as to what is raw material 
in dairy products. The raw material —fluid milk could not be 
exported and could not be handled to any extent at all. The only 
export in the case of dairy products is that of the finished products 
which could be transported ; and, secondly, you could not make it effec- 
tive on the raw material; you would have to make it effective on some 
type of the finished products, possibly that type of finished products 
which is most easily exportable. 
Mr. Fort. Then, let us assume the bill has been made operative 
as to butter and not as to anything else, and that its effect is to make 
butter a more profitable product to go into. Will that not have a 
tendency to force more fluid milk into butter and thereby benefit 
the fluid-milk producer? 
Mr. Sexaver. True. 
Mr. Fort. And they would not under your proposal pay any 
equalization fee? 
Mr. SexauEer. The mechanical details of the operation of the bill 
naturally are going to require a large administration force and 
detailed study as to its actual operation. 
Were I able in my spare time to devise a method of operation of this 
bill and get it perfect, perhaps I would have a little better job than 
I have got. So I can not do that. 
Mr. Fort. Do you not think we ought to try to figure it out in 
theory before we put it practically on the books? 
Mr. SexAvUER. I have never heard of any law which affected the 
economics of any industry being placed on the statute books in 
perfect form. : 
Mr. Fort. Neither have I. 
Mr. SExAUER. And so I am assuming that in placing those on the 
books that whoever does it and however it.is done it will be done with 
the best advice of those men who are most familiar with the particular 
commodities it is going to affect, and as it is expanded or contracted 
it will be expanded or contracted with the advice of those who are 
interested and those who have knowledge of the particular com- 
modity.