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- AGRICULTURAL RELIEF 
My. Fort. Then, really, under the language of the bill—I have 
not studied it in detail with this particular reference in mind, not 
being a milk producer—should it, or should it not, be protected so 
that the fee should not go on fluid milk? 
Mr. SExaUEr. I have confidence enough in the organizations 
which are handling milk so that if it should or should not go on 
fluid milk, that they could convince the board of it at that time. 
Mr. Fort. Do you think we ought to leave all these questions to 
somebody else to settle.and dodge our responsibility? 
Mr. SExAUER. I did not say that. 
Mr. Fort. Is not that what it comes to? 
Mr. Sexaver. Why should I say whether you should dodge your 
responsibilities or not? : 
Mr. Fort. But you are wanting us to leave all these questions 
sither to a board or some advisory council or some cooperative asso- 
ciation, or somebody else. Is it not our job here to draw a piece of 
legislation that has its limits and its restrictions and its powers 
pretty clearly defined? 
Mr. SExavEer. I would assume that that was the case. So far 
as we are concerned, we would just as soon have dairy products left 
out. But if they are left in—if you, in your discretionary power, 
decide to leave them in—I believe we can convince anyone that it is 
not necessary to operate the bill so far as those commodities are 
concerned. 
Mr. Jones. As a matter of fact, you would prefer to be left out for 
the present? 
Mr. SExAUER. I do not see the necessity for putting them in. 
Mr. Fort. Then your idea, Mr. Sexauer, is that the passage of an 
equalization fee bill will protect against overproduction in the dairy 
industry by making it more profitable to produce in others. 
Mr. SexaueR. Right. 
Mr. KincaeLOE. You said you had 40,000 members? 
Mr. SExAaUER. Right. 
Mir. KincaeLok. In New York and some adjacent States? 
Mr. SexavgeRr. Right. 
Mr. KiNcHELOE. Have you any national organization? 
Mr. SExAUER. Have we a national organization? 
Mr. KINCHELOE. Yes. 
Mr. SExXAUER. You mean Dairymen’s League? 
Mr. KincHeELOE. The dairy industry. 
Mr. Sexaver. The Dairymen’s League is connected with the 
National Milk Producers’ Cooperative Association. 
Mr. KincHELOE. Does that include the dairy industry of Minne- 
sota and Wisconsin? 
Mr. SExAUER. Some of it, I understand. 
Mr. KincaELOE. What percentage would you say of those engaged 
in the dairy industry are in the organization? 
Mr. SExavER. That is very, very difficult to say, depending on 
whether or not you are speaking from the standpoint of quantity 
production or from the standpoint—— 
Mr. KincHELOE. Everything. 
Mr. SexavER. Everything; from the standpoint of quantity pro- 
duction, I understand there are some 300,000 to 400,000 members 
in the national oreanization, and that national organization probably