576 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF Mr. SEXAUER. You mean making the tariff effective? The CuairmAN. I mean all protective laws. Mr. SEXAUER. Speaking of that in lump sum, I would say that agriculture absolutely has to have the same type of protection that other industry has if it is going to exist under costs that are created by that other legislation. It is absolutely essential; we can not exist without it. The CuatrMAN. Then if it were found that you were not getting the benefit of these protective laws, you would be in favor of operating 50 as to get that benefit? Mr. SEXAUER. Something would have to be done to give that industry the same beneficial results. The CrairMAN. As I understand it, you are getting the benefit of these laws now, and you are satisfied? Mr. SEXAUER. That is right. The Cuairman. And if the others engaged in agricultural pursuits are not getting those advantages you would be willing for them to have that advantage? Mr. SexavEeR. Right. There seems to have been a question, Mr. Chairman, as to whether we wish or do not wish to pay our share toward the maintenance of whatever legislation there may be. It is my understanding—and if I am wrong I wish some one would correct me—that this equalization fee or tax or whatever you wish to call it is to be applied only on those commodities on which the board is operating. The CuAIRMAN. Yes; that is generally understood as it applies to the equalization fee plan. I take it the question had reference to the debenture plan and others where the losses would come out of the Public Treasury. Mr. SeExauer. And that, for instance, when they are operating on wheat that there will be no equalization fee against corn or cotton; that when they are operating on cotton alone there will be no equal- ization fee on wheat or corn. So that I fail to see just where the criti- cism arises of the dairy organization which says that at the present time they do not believe it is necessary to operate on dairy products, or that they should be criticized or blamed for or have it said about them that they wish to put a burden on some one else and not assume it themselves. Mr. KincHELOE. You are here advocating this bill, are you not? Mr. SExavuer. Right. Mr. KiNcHELOE. You do not think it will be ever necessary to declare an operating period on dairy products, according to what you have said; and you further concede that the only fellow who will pay the equalization fee will be the raisers of that commodity upon which there has been an operating period declared? Mr. SEXAUER. Yes. Mr. KincHELOE. Getting back to your original statement, that the reason you want that done is because you do not want those people to quit their present vocations and produce certain commodi- ties that come in competition with you? Mr. SEXAUER. Yes. Mr. KincHELOE. Oh, in other words, your position, in the last analysis, is that “as long as we do not have to pay the equalization fee and as long as we do not think it will ever be necessary for us to