652 AGRICULTURAL RELIEF Mr. Warrace. Certainly. Mr. Apkins. The body of consumers represented in your organi- zation, I take it, depend on your leaders to look into these various legislative questions that affect them directly or indirectly, and keep them informed of what is going on, etc. Mr. WaLLace. We try to keep our people informed. Mr. Apkins. And you think that that body of consumers is, of course, backing your attitude on this legislation, or you would not be here advocating it? Mr. WarLLace. That is the story. Mr. Apkins. Now, the great body of consumers that are not or- ganized, that are not affiliated with any other organization, naturally would be subject to other propaganda. would they not, that might be antagonistic? Mr. Warpace. My experience, Mr. Adkins, with the unorganized is that they are inarticulate; they have not the means of receiving the information; they have not the means of giving out their expressions. Mr. Apkins. They would probably be influenced by the news- papers’ attitude on these questions in their local communities. Mr. WALLACE. We have found that among the workers they are influenced by and generally reiterate what we say. That is because of the mere fact that a man is estopped from organizing—does not keep him from having organization sympathies; and our experience is that 95 per cent of the unorganized subscribe to our policies, only they have not the means of expressing themselves. Mr. Apxins. The question I wanted to ask of you is this: Among the unorganized in the great big consuming centers, that are not directly in contact with an organization such as you represent, that get their information from the press in the large centers, which 1s opposed to farm relief, I will say that frankly? Mr. WALLACE. Yes. Mr. Apkins. They would be more likely to be influenced by what they see in that press than they would bv what your activity is, would they not? Mr. WaLnace. They would feel so, Mr. Adkins—1 cent added to the cost of a loaf of bread—and possibly resent it, taking that by itself. Mr. Apkins. That is the point I wanted to get. Mr. WarLace. They would not know what it meant eventually. Mr. AsweLL. The press might be qpposed to the Haugen bill, but [ would not make the assertion that the press is opposed to the farmers. Mr. Apkins. I am talking about the Haugen bill. Another thing they are very much concerned about the farmer having to pay this equalization fee. It is the farmers’ funeral if it is bad; and the peculiar thing about it is that they are so deeply concerned about it that they do not want him to pay his own way. Mr. WarLace. They do not want us to pay our dues. Mr. MEeNGEs. I notice you said a little while ago in answer to a question by Mr. Kincheloe that the price of labor in the industries is based upon the products that are exported. Mr. KincHELOE. He said that in regard to the textile industry. Mr. Warrace. In one industry.