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Mr. MeNnGEs. One industry; all right. The price of products we
raise is also made by the products we export.

Mr. WALLACE. I was making a parallel for that.

" Mr. MenGEs. Therefore, we farmers and you are on the same
asis.

Mr. WALLACE. I wish all the farmers could see that,

Mr. MENGES. You know there is some protection, in the exclusion
of foreign labor by the present legislation which is supposed to give
you a protective tariff on labor. Does that work out?

Mr. WaLrace. Well, it works out to a certain extent. We have
the surplus now as the result of our past policies. However, there is
a great big surplus of labor in this country. But if we had not had
the immigration law of 1924 it would be far more acute. We would
have from three to ten million people crowded into this country, all
of them producers, because if they could get our jobs it could only
be because they would accept those jobs at less remuneration than
we claim. So, we have been benefited by the immigration law.

Mr. KiNncHELOE. You have really been benefited by the immigra-
tion law; that is true.

Mr. WarLLace. Yes.

Mr. Menges. May I ask you another question? Then the added
number of people that would be brought into this country, if that
immigration law had not been enacted, would get such low wages
that it would be impossible for them to pay prices for the products
of the farm commensurate with what it costs to produce them.

Mr. Warrace. That is true. Some people claim that if there
were more people in this country that they would be in the industrial
centers and that there would be more demand for the farmers’
products. But the fact is, the wage level would be reduced and they
would buy less.

Mr. Menges. I would like to ask another question. I know
people whoghave not bought a new suit for four years just because
they have not had the money to do it with. oo

Mr. WarLace. That is tough on the tailors and the textile industry.

Mr. Menges. I know those people would be inclined to purchase
the products of the textile industry, providing th-y had the money.

Mr. WALLACE. Sure.

Mr. Menges. And I think there are in this country at least
25,000,000 who need new suits. How much would 25,000,000 suits
add to your income? } i

Mr. WarLace. It would help the textile industry; it would help
the clothing industry; and those men who are doing without suits are
doing without other knickknacks that they might consume; and
altogether it is the answer, Mr. Menges, to our troubles.

Mr. MencEs. And they are also doing without farm machinery
for that very reason.

Mr. WarLace. Exactly. i

Mr. Swank. I want to ask you one question: Representing the
members of your organization, as I understand it, you are appearing
here this morning and indorsing this McNary-Haugen agricultural
bill? .

Mr. Wavrace. I am indorsing the McNary-Haugen bill because
[ do not know of anything that has been proposed that will meet the
surplus question like 1t would.

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