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AGRICULTURAL RELIEF
Mr. Sexauer. We are going to get our benefit from it.

Mr. Jones. If you are not going to share your part of the burden,
do you not want the other farmers to share all of the burden of each
commodity? You want to get the benefit—that is just the trouble
with cooperative marketing to-day, the member has carried the non-
member on his shoulders. You want to be in the position of a non-
member; you want the farm organizations to carry out a program
here that will make the producers of that commodity or those com-
modities bear the burdens and let your people share the benefits,
without bearing the burdens; is not that correct?

Mr. SexavuER. Well, if we are as selfish as that, the fellows who have
advocated that and who seem to be glad of our support, have not
indicated it.

Mr. Jones. You want to pay no fee at all; do you; you do not
want your members to be levied on for a fee in this proposition?

Mr. SeExavugR. Should it be necessary to do this, that might be
necessary; however, we do not conceive it is necessary.

Mr. Jones. Are you willing for it to be so amended that whatever
fee is levied on other commodities that a measurably similar fee will
be levied on milk products?

Mr. SExXAUER. Provided it is necessary to use the bill for dairy
products, and the dairy associations say it is not necessary.

Mr. Jones. But you do not want the fee? :

Mr. SExAUER. Because the dairy associations and those interested
in dairying do not feel it is necessary.

Mr. Jones. In other words, they want the benefits without the
burdens, do they not; that is their position as stated by you?

(No response.)

Mr. KincHELOE. But they do think it necessary for those other
fellows to pay the equilization fee?

Mr. SExaUER. I would not like to state that.

Mr. FuLMER. Mr. Jones, I think he has made himself clear that if
they get in competition because of the other fellow—

Mr. Jones. No, that is not his stated position. His stated
position is that they do not want the milk products in the bill; and if
they do not put milk products in the bill this board will have no
power to levy a fee. The statement that he would be willing to pay
the fee if necessary does not alter your position. You do not want
to be put in a position where you would be subject to a fee? |

Mr. SexaUuER. My position is that dairy products, with the
1% of agriculture if rightly protected, will never need the help of this
bill.

Mr. Jones. Especially if the power to levy the fee does not include
the power to levy on dairy products.

Mr. SExaUuEr. But it will not be necessary to operate on dairy
products.

Mr. KincaELOE. But you think it will be necessary on the other
commodities?

Mr. SExavER. It evidently is. Those who have made a study of
these other commodities far more than I have—I know nothing about
cotton, I know nothing about corn and nothing about wheat—but
those who have made a study of these other commodities seem to feel
it is necessary to do something for those other commodities.