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Senator Regn. I can not pin you down to anything. 
Doctor Friepenwarn. I can not be pinned down to details, because 
[ do not know details. I am thinking about the broad general 
principles. 
Senator Rrep. Yes; that is what I want to get you to do; the 
broad general principle whether it is within our right or desirable 
to give to the descendants of those Hessians quotas over the men 
who constituted that Continental Congress that decided to take 
them In. 
Doctor FriepeNnwaLp. My answer to that, Senator, is in all defer- 
ence, I would have to investigate statistics and be sure vour state- 
ment is correct. 
Senator Reep. We have the statistics here. 
Doctor FriEpENWaLD. But you know the old story about statistics? 
Senator REED. Yes; I know. 
Doctor FrRIEDENWALD, Statistics, as you know, can be made to 
answer any purpose. 
Senator Rump. Yes. 
Doctor Frieoenwarp. And Doctor Hill and the statisticians will 
admit to you that the theories of the statistics do not rest on any 
exact scientific basis, like an exact science. 
Senator Reep. Doctor, if you will pause for just a moment; the 
only statistics to which I was going to call your attention were the 
numerals in the table of quotas, which show that the German quota 
is very much larger at present than the British quota. Is it, in 
your judgment, fair to have the Germans and German element, the 
descendants of these Hessians you speak of, given a larger representa- 
tion in the quota than the British? That is not any deduction from 
statistics. 
Doctor Frzpenwarp. If your statement is correct—I am assuming 
it is—and it is based on correct statistical information. I do not 
want to listen to fieures. Senator. because they do not mean anvthing 
to me——- 
Senator Reep. Perhaps somebody else in the room does want to 
listen to figures and perhaps I want to give them. Under the tem- 
porary 1890 basis the quota of Germany is 51,227; the quota of 
Great Britain and northern Ireland is 34.007: that is, 51.000 against 
34,000. Is that fair? 
Doctor Frienenwarp. If those statistics are correct, and I assume 
they are, then I do not see any reason why it is fair. I see no reason 
why there should be any discrimination in favor of Germans against 
English. That is all Thave to say. I quite agree with you, if those 
statistics are correct. I presume thev are as correct as they can 
be made. 
Senator Reep. The statistics I read to you are the proclaimed 
quotas under which we are now operating, and until yon suggested 
a doubt as to the accuracy of them, no one else has. 
Doctor FriepeNwarp. It is not the first time I have had an in- 
dividual opinion. 
Senator Reep. Not at all. But those are the figures to which the 
immigration at present is limited. I am trying to find out whether 
in vour judeement that is a fair system to continue.