Z NATIONAL ORIGINS PROVISION OF IMMIGRATION LAW 
Assistant Secretary Carr. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, I do not 
believe the Department of State has any views on that question. 
What I mean by that is that we understand that the experts who 
have been engaged upon preparing the quotas under the so-called 
national-origins provision prepared one tentative report, which was 
finally transmitted to Congress. 
Last year they prepared another report, which we regard as a 
final report—that 1s, final up to that date—which was also trans- 
mitted to the Senate pursuant to a resolution of the Senate. 
Now, they are at work on another report to bring their results 
ap to date on the basis of whatever new data they have discovered 
meanwhile, for the information of the President and the Congress. 
if it desires that information. 
I feel, and I think it is the feeling of the department, that the 
board of experts have obtained about all the information that they 
are able to obtain and have done about all the work they are capable 
of doing to perfect these quotas as far as they can under existing 
aw. 
I do not think we have any feeling as to whether you should post- 
pone the taking effect of this law or not; we think that is rather a 
matter for Congress, in its wisdom, to determine. 
The Cmamman. In your opinion, is there sufficient information 
before the Congress at the present time to put the law into effect ; 
I mean with accuracy and definiteness in the mode we like to have 
in respect of the administration of the law? 
Assistant Secretary Carr. I have not gone into that matter, Sena- 
tor, the matter of sufficiency of the information, because we regard 
that as rather a scientific question for the determination of these 
scientists who are at work on the quotas. Doctor Hill, of the Depart- 
ment of Commerce, has been chairman of the committee that has 
worked on that matter, and I think all of us are prepared to say that 
we have absolute confidence in him and his colleagues, and are pre- 
pared to take their statement as to the accuracy of their conclusions 
and the sufficiency of the information upon which those conclusions 
have been reached. 
The three Secretaries—the Secretaries of State, Commerce, and 
Labor—have in the past felt that they did not want to put them- 
selves in the position of saying that ‘the formula which Congress 
laid down for the determination of these quotas was a good formula 
or a bad one. TI think they want to remain noncommital on that 
question. But I do not think any of them undertakes to controvert 
or disapprove the processes which this board of experts has employed. 
Senator Nye. Do they undertake to joss upon the efficiency of the 
basis which has been finally arrived at? 
Assistant Secretary Carr. I think they have all of them felt un- 
convinced that the formula in the law was a workable formula. I 
do not pretend to pass upon that at all myself; I do not know, 
frankly. I think I would have entire confidence in whatever Doctor 
Hill, Mr. Boggs, and those gentlemen have to say about that—con- 
fidence in their integrity and confidence in their scientific knowledge, 
Senator Rep. You do feel they have about exhausted all research 
that is possible for them? 
Assistant Secretary Carr. I have not talked to Doctor Hill, but I 
have talked to Mr. Boggs, of our own department. and I feal that