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Mr.-EmerY. No; we have no means of estimating that, Mr. Mon- 
tague, except the limits of the appropriation. 
_ Mr. Crier. The Manufactuers’ Association is not opposed, I take 
1%, to S. 30597 
Mr. Emery. No, sir. 
Mr. Cerrar. So you addressed your opposition simply to S. 3060? 
Mr. Emery. Yes, in its present form. 
Mr. CerLer. Would you be opposed to any bill which would permit 
Federal aid to States which are willing to receive that aid? 
The Cuairman. That question is not before us now. 
Mr. CeLuer. That is part of this bill as amended, Mr. Chairman. 
There is an smendment fo this bill, I think, ihat might cover the 
objection effered by Mr. Emery. 
The Cuarrman. You mean if amended? 
Mr. CeLLer. Yes. 
Mr. Emery. Pardon me, what was the question? 
Mr. CeLLER. I say, would you voice objection to this bill if it were 
amended in such a way as to give Federal aid only to such States that 
are willing to receive the Federal aid in case of unemployment? 
~ Mr. Emery. Well, you refer to Federal aid alone now, not with 
the accompanying conditions that are attached in this bill? 
Mr. CELLER. Yes. 
Mr. Emery. I can not separate them from it, because the Federal 
ald in this bill is accompanied by conditions. 
Mr. Cerrer. I am addressing myself to the objection that you 
voice to the bill, section 10, that portion of it at the bottom of page 8 
and the top of page 9, where you vehemently expressed objection 
because the Federal Government could go in, through its director 
oceneral of employment, into a State and set up an agency for one 
year, pending agreement made with the governor of that State. 
Now, if that was striken out, would you be in favor of the bill? =~ 
“1p. Emery. Would the remainder of the bill be satisfactory? 
I +. CELLER. Yes. 
Mr. Emery. No. it would not, for the reasons which I have given 
you. . . | 
Mr. Cerrier. Now, private agencies under the conditions which 
have been obtaining heretofore have not helped very much in the 
solution of unemployment, have they? 
. Mr. Emery. Well, of course employment agencies are not a solu- 
tion of unemployment. They are an aid in helping those who are 
without work to find what jobs are available, to the extent that they 
are well organized and efficiently managed. 
Mr. Cerner. Well, these employment depressions have come with 
regularity and apparently the agencies that we now have, have not 
been of much help in alleviating those conditions. : 
Mr. Emery. Well, I would say in reply: to that, I fear you are 
emphasizing too much the contribution that the employment agency 
can make. I think it can make a considerable one, but I think the 
chief contribution is to be found in the assembly, analysis and com- 
pilation and distribution of timely and pertinent information with 
respect to these local conditions, assembled by municipal and State 
agencies, and coordinated by the Federal Government. 
Mr. Cerrer. I will put it this way: In other words, the present 
state of affairs is. quite unsatisfactory, is it net? = - 
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