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displaced. But the trouble is that the point of saturation—I think 
shat is the proper term—has almost been reached; the newer indus- 
ries have almost reached their maximum capacity in their power to 
absorb and, unless there is something more that will develop, new 
and still newer industries, to take up this slack unemployment 
caused by technological unemployment and machine displacement, 
we will be face to face with the same condition that exists in England 
ind Germany. 
Mr. Jonas. Surely. 
Mr. GREEN. And we will have to grapple with that problem then 
and choose between this social disorder and constructive legislation. 
We are not face to face with that yet. 
Mr. Jonas. But we should begin to face it. 
Mr. Green. I say we ought to make a gesture; we ought to do 
something. 
Mr. Jonas. But my question is, if you will express an opinion, 
what is your opinion as to the fundamental solution of this problem 
that faces the world and that we all ought to be thinking about? 
Mr. Green. Well you have asked me a very difficult question. 
Mr. Jonas. I know it. 
Mr. GreEEN. I would hesitate to answer a question fraught with 
such world-wide significance. 
Mr. Jonas. But we have to answer it, do we not? 
Mr. Green. Yes; and, if you will ask a hundred men who claim to 
have studied the question, you will perhaps cet a hundred different 
Answers. 
Mr. Jonas. But I have such great respect for your judgment, I 
wondered what your idea of the correct solution was. 
Mr. Green. 1 think these bills will help us materially, particularly 
this bill; it will help us to regularize emplovment: it will help us to 
place men. 
Mr. Jonas. But these bills do not reach the fundamentals of the 
problem involved. 
Mr. GreeN. Perhaps not; but it will be a great help to us in dealing 
vith this unemployment problem. 
Mr. Jonas. 1 think so, too. 
Mr. Sumners. Mr. Green, as I view this bill, it probably provides 
some machinery for study and provides some machinery for shifting 
labor—you say 3,000,000 out of employment. You can not go into 
a State of the United States that you do not find able men and women, 
~ompetent people, ready to work. 
Mr. Green. Yes. 
Mr. Sumners. Neither can you find employment there, nor would 
any conscientious person send them anywhere else. I am speaking 
zenerally. In the country, we find the farms running down; I mean 
the productivity of agricultural machinery is getting in that shape 
that the fields are washing away, the houses are without painting, 
and yet there are painters without jobs. Can there be any solution 
that the fields are washing away, the houses are without painting, 
and yet there are painters without jobs. Can there be any solution 
except, somehow or other, through the means of economic machinery 
in this country to create greater purchasing power for the average 
man, so that the average man can buy some of the things that are 
being produced by mechanical machinery? 
Mr. GrereN. That 1s the sloution.