22 AGRICULTURAL MARKETING REVOLVING FUND 
Mr. Leeoe. Congressman, that situation is a little like the tobacco 
question you were just discussing. I think we have spent more time 
with the livestock growers than perhaps any one single group. 
They were partly organized in separate groups. 
Finally, after I do not know how many efforts, a majority of 
them who were organized at all, agreed on this present set-up of 
the National Livestock Marketing Association. . 
Since that time quite a substantial nuniber of new organizations 
and some of the older ones that at first declined to participate, 
have joined with the association. 
For instance, Mr. Denman is leaving this afternoon for Kansas 
City to confer with another group who are considering the same 
thing. The work is under way, but it has been very slow getting 
those fellows together. But I really believe it is heading in the 
right direction now and is going to go forward much more rapidly 
from now on. 
Mr. Byrwns. I understand your National Livestock Marketing 
Association is composed of a number of associations: in other 
words, it is a combination of a number. 
Mr, Lrgee. Yes. 
Mr. Byr~s. Are there any associations out there which are organ- 
ized under the terms of the Capper-Volstead Act which are not in 
that association, and which. therefore, under the law could not 
qualify ¢ 
Mr. Lzeeoe. Yes, sir, there are some that are holding out and 
declining to go along on what we regard as pure technicalities. 
There is no substantial difference of agreement between them and 
what is now in existence. 
Of course, the law admonishes us not to encourage competition 
among the cooperatives themselves, and we have been making our 
efforts to try to bring these fellows together into one central organ- 
ization, where they would work with each other instead of fighting 
each other, as some of them have been doing in the past. 
Mr. Byrxs. As 1 understand it, your board recognizes the Pro- 
{uecer’s Commission Co? 
Mr. Lreor. No, it is the National Livestock Marketing Associ- 
ation. Practically all these old producer groups have joined in. 
But it is not in any sense the old organization; it is an entirely new 
organization and it has a complete new set-up. I think they repre- 
sent probably not less than half of the producers now affiliated 
with this new national, but practically all of the old producers’ 
organization have joined and taken membership in the central 
organization. 
Mr. Byrys. What is the Farmers’ Union Livestock Co. ? 
Mr. Lrcos. Several of such units were sot up under the auspices 
of this Farmers Educational and Cooperative Union of Ainerica, 
which is a national farm organization, as you know. One of their 
nnits, which is located at South St. Paul has joined the National 
Livestock Marketing Association. 
Mr. Berns. Mr. Legge, has the board ever investigated to deter- 
mine whether or not these cooperative companies are rendering or 
have rendered as efficient or high-class or beneficial service to the 
orowers in marketing livestock as the members of the Livestock 
Exchange ?