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exist in America. In my opinion, the slums of the cities have been 
moved to the country, and it should not be permitted and ought not 
to be allowed. I am speaking for those people, hundreds of whom, I 
have met and with whom I have stayed in their homes and slept al 
night; and I am speaking to-day for those people and not for myseli 
at all in any way, shape, or form. 
Mr. KercaaM. You do not think, then, there is any particular 
danger of the encroachment of Federal power in the minds of folks 
like that? 
Mr. MorcanN. No, because they will elect their own officers; it 
will be managed by their own people, whom they will select under 
this | LeNary-Haugen bill, and they will not see any encroachment 
at all. 
Mr. KercuaaMm. I am glad to know that, in view of certain eloquent 
views that have been expressed on the floor of the House of Repre- 
sentatives concerning the dreadful encroachment of Federal power. 
Mr. Morgan. I do not think there is any encroachment of Federal 
power under the McNary-Haugen bill; I think it will manage itself. 
Mr. KercaaMm. The Federal power encroaches on about every 
other activity to their advantage, does it not? 
Mr. Morgan. It appears to me it has done it. But we are not 
asking it for agriculture. We do not think there is any encroachment 
under the McNary-Haugen bill, because we will manage the business 
ourselves. 
Mr. KercaaM. So far as the operation of this bill is concerned, 
its effect on the tobacco growers, the numbers coming in or staying 
out, in your cooperatives, you think it is not going to cut any figure, 
thoy you will go on and function whether the man comes in or stays 
out! 
Mr. MoreaN. No; we do not care whether he comes in or stays 
out. We feel we can sign up 50 per cent, and that is enough with 
which to function under it satisfactorily. 
Mr. KiNcHELOE. If the equalization fee was effective you would 
have, you think, in your cooperatives, sufficient agencies to market 
the crop? 
Mr. Moraga. 
Mr. KiNcHF- «w matter whether in or out; is not that true? 
Mr. Morcan. res, sir. 
Mr. KiNcHELOE. And, therefore, everybody participating in the 
benefits? 
Mr. MorGan. Yes, sir; that is all we ask. 
Mr. Apkins. Following the ideas of Mr. Kincheloe, 25 years ago, 
when we got into the grain business, we did not get into it because 
we wanted to take out time and mess around in it; and if other agen- 
cies had been doing it at what we considered a fair price, we would 
not have thought about getting into it. Your farmers are just like 
ourselves, if you do grow tobacco. You do not care about going out 
and invading any other field, if your service is rendered fairly, and 
you were getting a fair return for what you have produced. These 
other matters are not so essential. Farmers are not wanting to be 
merchants? 
Mr. Morean. No, sir; they are not. 
Mr. Menges. In preparing your tobacco for market, is it necessary 
that it should be sweated? I come from a tobacco country, and that 
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