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The Cirarrvax. It has never been declared that it' would advance 
the price 42 cents a bushel. nor has a vote ever been taken to fix the 
tariff at 42 cents. 
Mr. Coxnapiy. It is a beautiful theory, but it will not work. It 
has not worked. Let me ask the question. Does .the gentleman 
believe the President will approve the MeN ary-Haugen bill? 
The C3amyan. I am not so much concerned about that. 
Mr. Coxxarry. I know you are not, but 1 am. I want the gentle- 
man to answer my question. If you really want farm relief, you 
ought to be concerned whether it will be vetoed. 
The Ornatraan. I think everv member should vote as his con- 
science dictates. 
Mr. Coxxariy. Does the gentleman want a bill or a veto ¢ 
The Ciratrsrax. I do not think the President would have any 
respect for me if I should do as he might direct. I have a higher 
conception of my duty than that; I have a higher regard for Members 
of Congress than to suggest such a thing. Personally, I would not 
want it said that I am serving as a bellhop for the President or 
anybody else. 
Mr. CoxxarrLy. Do you think the President is going to be your 
bellhop and approve this bill if you pass it? 
Mr. Kurceras. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen of the committee, a 
situation has developed, it is easy to see, where we can not finish 
to-day, but I am sure the gentlemen of the committee will not want 
to miss the testimony of Mr. Goss. I want him to be presented, 
and then make any statement in regard to filing any statement he 
nay desire. 
Mr. Kincurror. I would like to hear this gentleman, but it is after 
12 o'clock. 
Mr. Kercrmay. The point I am making is that he has to leave and 
desires to file a written statement. 
Mr. Goss. In the limited time I could not say anything. 
The CratearaN. The committee will stand at recess until 10 o’clock 
to-morrow morning. 
(Thereupon, at 12.30 o’clock p. m., the committee adjourned to meet 
to-morrow. Thursday. February 9. 1928. at 10 o’clock a. m.) 
House oF REPRESENTATIVES, 
CoMMITIEE ON AGRICULTURE, 
Thursday, February 9, 1928. 
The committee met, pursuant to adjournment, at 10 o’clock a. m., 
Hon. Gilbert N. Haugen (chairman) presiding. 
Mr. Havcex. The committee will kindly come to order. Are you 
ready, Mr. Ketcham? . 
Mr. Xercmanm. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I 
want to present this morning as the first witness a representative of 
the grange, coming from the Pacific coast, who will speak not only 
with respect to that particular section of the country but will speak 
with particular emphasis upon the details of the bill and, I think, 
will undertake to answer questions that may be propounded by 
various members of the committee concerning the basis of it, if you 
would like to have information upon it.