Full text : Report from the Select Committee on Slave Trade (East Coast of Africa); together with the proceedings of the Committee, minutes of evidence, appendix and index

ON  SLAVE  TRADE  (EAST  COAST  OE  AFRICA).

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port  on  both  skies  of  the  Gulf  of  Aden,  and  I
^oink  I  failed  only  in  one  ;  that  was  at  Tajura  ;  I
''  as  politely  received,  but  the  governor  intimated
me  that  the  Sultan  of  Constantinople  was  his
master.

920.  Did  those  treaties  give  us  authority  to
seize  ships  having  slaves  on  board  ?—Yes;  those
treaties  are  all  printed  (see  pp.  184-186  in
No.  XLIX,,  New  Series,  Bombay  Government
Records,  1859).

Rev.  HORACE  Waller,  called  in  ;  and  Examined.

921.  C/mirman.]  I  believe
'^^Orgyman  in  England  ?—I  am_

you  are  now  a

922.  Have  you  been  on  the  East  Coast  of
p^h'ica  ?—I  joined  the  Universities’  Mission  to
^Gntral  Africa  at  the  end  of  the  year  1860,  and  I
there  till  the  year  1864,  when  I  returned  to
‘'is  country  and  took  Holy  orders.
923.  In  what  })art  of  Africa  tvere  you  ?—On
i'e  River  Zambezi  and  in  the  neighbourhood  of
^^ke  Shirwa.
I  924.  You  remained  there  for  four  years  ?—
“  that  part  very  nearly  three  years.
925.  What  distance  were  you  from  Zanzibar  ?
A  verv  considerable  distance  to  the  southward
ofk.  ^
.  926.  Towards  Nyassa?—To  the  south  of  Lake
^yassa,  within  100  miles  of  Lake  Nyassa,  in  the
part  of  the  country  from  which  slaves  were  principally ­
  collected  to  be  sent  down  to  the  coast,  and
also  down  the  River  Zambezi  into  the  Portuguese
^minions.
927.  Were  there  very  large  exports  of  slaves
‘oin  that  part  of  the  country?—At  that  time  the
Imports  were  very  large,  perhaps  they  had  never
^Gn  so  large  before  in  that  part  of  Africa.  The
'''Pole  of  the  country  to  the  north  of  the  Zambezi
''as  for  the  first  time  invaded  by  sla^e  traders,
)mo  took  advantage  of  Dr.  Livingstone’s  pre-'.‘Ous
  explorations,  using  his  good  name  and  fair
^atne  amongst  the  natives,  and  saying  that  they  were
'Pe  same  sort  of  white  people  that  they  had  pre-Uously
  seen  ;  and  in  that  way  the  natives  allowed
.^oin  to  come  into  their  country.  Before  that
‘me  no  Portuguese  had  ever  been  into  that  part
the  country.  I  may  state  that  the  slave  trade
I'^t  Was  opened  out  there  was  of  two  descriptions,
the  first  place,  the  Kaffir  tribes  to  the  south
the)  River  Zambezi  had  been  fighting  for  a
^y^at  number  of  years  amongst  themselves.  No
.“'es  are  taken  from  the  Kaffir  tribes  for  the
I  “Vc  trade  which  we  ha's  e  under  consideration,
‘tit  owing  to  the  hardships  of  warfare  nearly  all  the
'pmen  and  children  had  disappeared  from  those
l^tPes,  and  the  Kaffirs  were  most  anxious  to  replen-.?P
  “nd  strengthen  the  tribes,  and  therefore  they  told
jke  Portuguese  that  they  no  longer  wanted  mus-^cts
  which  burst,  and  with  which  they  were  very
'tteP  cheated,  but  they  would  prefer  to  have
^^men  and  children  sent  to  them.  The  Portu-^“ese
  thereupon  collected  all  the  women  and
^  ‘Idren  they  could  in  the  highlands  bordering
.^P®  River  Shire,  and  sent  them  down  to  Tette,
p.“ch  is  the  principal  Portuguese  port  on  the
iVer  Zambezi,  whence  they  were  sent  to  the
J^“fiir  tribes  in  the  interior  of  the  country,  and
^j'Ped  away  for  ivory  and  gold  dust.  Then
Smn  there  was  at  that  time  another  very  large
of  slaves  to  the  mouth  of  the  River  Zam-^
  Quillimane,  another  of  the  Portuguese
^l^'^leuients.  The  French  engagées  system  was
C“  ill  full  force,  and  a  large  export  of  slaves
going  on  from  Quillimane.  Besides  those
Was  also  a  trade  carried  on  to  the  north  by
the  slaves  for  which  trade  were  taken
P-116.

from  this  jiart  of  (he  country  to  Kilwa  to  be  exported ­
  to  Zanzibar,  and  they  were  also  taken  in
very  large  numbers  to  Mozambique,  w  hence  they
were  exported  to  the  Comoro  Islands  and  to
Madagascar,  and  some  of  them  to  Réunion.
928.  Sir  J.  Hay.l  Slaves  of  all  sexes  ?—Of  all
sexes.
929.  ièir  li.  Aiisti'utherr\  And  of  all  ages  ?—In
a  gang  of  84  slaves  that  Dr.  Livingstone  and  two
or  three  of  us  liberated,  there  may  have  been
seven  women  of  21  years  of  age  ;  there  may  have
been  10  men  of  19  years  of  age,  and  the  rest
were  boys  and  girls  of  from  17  dnwn  to  six  or
seven.  I  must  explain  that  for  those  Kaffirs  the
Portuguese  collected  women  and  children  only;
it  w  as  useless  sending  them  young  men  of  18  or
20  ;  the  Kaffirs  wished  for  women  and  children
only.  The  slaves  collected  for  the  French  éngagées
  system  would  be  principally  of  the  age  of
18  to  25,  because  they  could  be  put  on  the  plantations ­
  at  once,  but  in  all  slave  gangs  by  far  the
largest  proportion  consists  of  children.  The  slave
dealers  prefer  children  because  they  are  not  so
troublesome  to  drive,  they  are  much  easier  caught
if  they  attempt  to  escape,  and  they  very  soon
settle  down  in  their  occupations,  and  they  do  not
pine  as  slaves  of  greater  age  would.
930.  Cltairman.^  When  you  say  children  wdiat
age  do  you  mean?—From  seven  years  of  age
upwards;  you  will  find  in  every  slave  gang  a
great  many  children  of  seven  to  10  years  of  age  ;
they  are,  perhaps,  the  most  valuable  slaves  that
can  be  captured.
931.  Sir  R.  Anstrutherr\  Can  you  form  any
idea  of  the  proportion  of  children  that  have  been
exported  lately  ?—I  know  from  letters  which  I
have  received  from  Dr.  Livingstone,  and  which
I  would  have  brought  had  I  known  I  was
going  to  be  examined  to-day,  that  the  same  devastation ­
  is  going  on  up  to  the  latest  dates  ;  he
has  been  through  an  immense  tract  of  country
w  hich  is  now  entirely  depopulated  ;  on  all  sides
there  are  signs  of  this  slave  trade  having  swept
aw  ay  the  whole  of  the  population.
932.  Chairmaji.']  Where  is  that?—The  country
between  the  East  of  Lake  Nyassa  and  the  coast.
933.  How  far  is  Nyassa  from  the  coast?—I
should  say  300  or  350  miles.
934.  Do  you  mean  that  all  the  country,  from
the  coast  to  Lake  Nyassa,  is  depopulated  ?—It
is  depopulated  to  within  a  short  distance  of  Lake
Nyassa.
935.  You  referred  just  now  to  slaves  collected
for  the  purpose  of  being  employed  on  the  French
engagées  system  ;  that  has  entirely  ceased  now,
has  not  it?—The  French  engagées  system  has
entirely  ceased,  but  it  was  so  profitable  a  trade
that  the  Portuguese  on  the  River  Zambezi  sold  oft
nearly  all  the  slaves  they  had  on  their  farms  to
supply  it,  and  therefore  during  the  latter  part  of
the  time  that  I  was  in  the  country  they  were
getting  fresh  slaves  down  for  the  cultivation  of
their  farms  ;  and  the  whole  of  the  country  in
w  hich  w  e  were  was  depopulated  for  their  trade.
I  936.  That

Sir
W,  Coghlan.
24  July
1871.

Rev.
H.  Waller.
            
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