Full text : Report from the Select Committee on Slave Trade (East Coast of Africa); together with the proceedings of the Committee, minutes of evidence, appendix and index

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MINUTES  OF  EVIDENCE  TAKEN  BEFORE  SELECT  COMMITTEE

Hon.
C,  Vivian^

10  July
187».

the  south,  including  the  islands  of  Zanzibar,
Pemba,  and  Momfia,  so  that  he  thus  restricted
the  traffic  entirely  to  his  African  possessions,  and
did  not  allow  it  to  goon  any  further  b  et  we  en  Africa
and  Asia.  This  treaty  was  carried  into  execution
by  the  Act  11  &  12  Viet.  c.  78,  which  contained
regulations  for  the  trial  of  vessels  and  the  bounties ­
  to  be  paid.  The  treaty  was  then  communicated ­
  to  the  Arab  chiefs  in  the  Persian  Gulf,  and
they  severally  engaged  in  April  and  May  1847,
to  prohibit  the  export  of  slaves  from  the  coast  of
Africa  and  elsewhere  on  board  their  vessels,  and
those  of  their  subjects  or  dependents,  and  permitted ­
  the  cruisers  of  the  British  Government  to
detain  and  search  their  vessels,  and  to  seize  and
confiscate  any  found  violating  this  engagement
by  the  exportation  of  slaves  from  the  coast  of
Africa  and  elsewhere,  upon  any  pretext  whatever. ­
  This  treaty  also  was  carried  into  effect  by
the  Act  12  &  13  Viet.  c.  84.  The  traffic  in
slaves  was  thus  entirely  prohibited  between
Africa  and  Asia,  and  localised  to  the  African
coast  within  the  limits  of  Kihvay  and  Lamoo,  including ­
  the  islands  of  Zanzibar,  Pembia,  and
Momfia.  On  the  6th  of  May  1850,  a  declaration
was  signed  by  the  Imaum  of  Muscat,  granting
permission  to  Her  Majesty’s  ships  of  war  to  enter
his  creeks,  rivers,  and  harbours,  and  territorial
waters,  to  seize  vessels  engaged  in  the  slave  trade,
and  to  destroy  slave  barracoons.  This  permission
was,  I  believe,  confirmed  by  a  letter  of  the  late  Sultan, ­
  Seyud  Majid  (the  man  who  has  just  died).  In
October  1863  Synd  Majid  (the  late  Sultan)  issued
orders  forbidding  the  export  of  slaves  from  the
portofKilwa;  and  on  the  1st  of  January  1864
he  issued  two  notifications,  one  entirely  prohibiting ­
  any  transport  of  slaves  during  the  season
of  exportation,  viz.,  from  1st  January  to  1st  May,
and  the  second,  prohibiting  householders  from
renting  houses  to  the  northern  Arabs,  who  visit
Zanzibar  for  the  purpose  of  kidnapping  slaves.
Those  are  all  the  treaties  we  have  with  the  Imaum
of  Muscat.
8.  What  are  the  treaties  we  have  with  Persia,
with  respect  to  the  slave  trade  ?—A  firman  was
issued  by  the  late  Shah  (and  confirmed  by  the
present  Shah)  to  his  governors  in  June  1848,
containing  positive  and  strict  injunctions  to  all
the  slave  dealers  trading  by  sea,  that  the  importation ­
  and  exportation  of  negroes  by  sea  into  the
Persian  Dominions  is  entirely  forbidden,  but  not
by  land.  “  Not  a  single  individual  ”  (says  the
firman)  “  will  be  permitted  to  bring  negroes  by
sea  without  being  subjected  to  severe  punishment.” ­
  By  the  Convention  of  1851  the  Persian
Government  agreed  that  the  ships  oí  war  of  the
British  Government  and  of  the  East  India  Company ­
  shall,  in  order  to  prevent  the  chance  of
negro  slaves  being  imported  by  sea,  be  permitted
to  search  Persian  merchant  vessels,  but  not
government  vessels,  provided  a  Persian  officer
is  on  board  the  British  cruiser.  If  slaves  are
found  they  may  be  taken  possession  of  by  the
British  authorities,  without  causing  further
damage  or  undue  detention  to  the  captain  or  crew
of  the  vessel,  which  must  be  delivered  up  to  the
authorities  of  the  Persian  Government,  who
undertake  to  punish  and  fine  the  owner  in  a
suitable  manner.  The  treaty  was  to  run  for
11  years,  and  it  was  renewed  in  1857.
9.  Was  it  renewed  for  any  definite  time  in
1857?—For  10  years  more;  the  treaty  did  not
expire  till  1862,  then  it  was  to  expire  in  1872,
and  then  only  by  notice  on  one  side  or  the  other.

and  no  notice  has  passed.  We  consulted  our
minister  in  Persia  whether  it  was  likely  that  we
should  gain  any  good  end  by  denouncing  the
treaty  and  proposing  a  new  one  ;  whether  we
could  get  rid  of  the  stipulation  that  a  Persian
officer  is  to  be  on  board  our  vessels,  which  has  been
found  to  be  rather  an  inconvenient  stipulation,
but  he  advised  us  not  to  endeavour  to  procure  a
modification  of  the  treaty,  as  we  might  probably
lose  it  altogether.
10.  Has  the  Sultan  of  Zanzibar  fairly  and
faithfully  carried  out  those  treaties  ?—I  believe
that  the  Sultan  of  Zanzibar  lias  to  the  best  of  his
ability  carried  out  the  treaties,  but  I  do  not
believe  that  the  Imaum  of  Muscat  has,  or  that  the
Arab  chiefs  in  the  Persian  Gulf  have.  You  will
find  from  the  information  you  will  get,  that  all  the
damage  is  done  by  the  Arabs  coming  down  from
the  north  ;  they  come  down  with  the  north-east
monsoon  to  Zanzibar,  and  whilst  they  are  there,
they  are  a  terror  to  everybody  there  ;  no  black
man  can  show  his  head  outside  his  house,  and  it  is
they  who  do  all  the  damage.  They  are,  for  the
most  part,  subjects  of  the  Imaum  of  Muscat  and
of  the  chiefs  of  the  Arab  tribes  in  the  Persian
Gulf.
11.  Muscat  and  Zanzibar,  which  formerly
constituted  one  sovereignty,  is  now  divided  ;
when  did  the  division  take  place  ?—The  kingdom
was  divided  in  1856  ;  Seyed  Saeed  left  Zanzibar
to  one  son,  named  Seyed  Mejid,  and  he  left
Muscat  to  his  other  son,  named  Thowaynee,  who
did  not  at  all  assent  to  the  arrangement,  and  a
quarrel  was  imminent,  but  in  in  1861  they  referred
it  to  the  arbitration  of  the  Government  of  India,
and  Lord  Canning  decided,  by  awarding  Muscat
to  Thowaynee,  and  Zanzibar  to  Seyed  Mejid,
and  Seyed  Mejid  was  to  pay  the  Sultan  of
Muscat  40,000  crowns  (or  about  8,500  L  a  year)
as  a  subsidy.
12.  Lord  F.  Covendish.~\  In  perpetuity?—
I  believe  so  :  but  Sir  John  Kaye  will  give  better
information  upon  that  than  I  can  ;  there  has  been
a  question  about  the  terms  of  the  arrangement,
buti  fancy  it  is  in  perpetuity.
13.  Chainyian.']  Is  there  any  considerable
number  of  British  subjects  in  Zanzibar?—I  think
there  are  22  English  subjects,  but  there  are  a
great  many  British  Indian  subjects;  I  think  there
are  altogether  3,710  British  Indians  and  British
protected  subjects.
14.  Mr.  Km7iaird.'\  Is  there  a  trade  springing
up  in  Zanzibar  ?—I  believe  so.
15.  Which  is  capable  of  almost  infinite  extension ­
  ?—Yes,  I  understood  so;  I  have  not  been
there  myself.
16.  You  understand  so  from  your  iuformation  ?
—Yes  ;  I  think  there  is  a  trade  springing  up
which  is  capable  of  considerable  expansion.
17.  Chairma7ï.~\  What  is  the  system  pursued
by  the  slave  traders  on  the  coast  to  obtain  slaves
from  the  interior  ?—The  Northern  Arabs  come
down  with  the  monsoon  from  Muscat  on  the
Persian  Gulf  in  January,  February,  and  March,
to  Zanzibar,  at  which  point,  or  on  various
parts  of  the  coast,  slaves  have  been  collected
in  the  meantime  by  the  slave-hunters,  and  the
slave  dhows  then  carry  off  the  slaves  (at  great
risk  to  themselves,  but  one  or  two  successful
voyages  make  up  for  a  good  many  failures),
picking  them  up  as  they  run  along  the  coast.  If
they  see  one  of  our  cruisers,  they  generally  run
on  shore,  turn  all  the  slaves  out,  and  escape  as
best  they  can.
            
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